Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

[Saint Rubenio]

Just now, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

An eroge someone on reddit was talking about, decided to look it up and found this XD

I figured it was a porn game. Had all the looks of it. Default RPGMaker assets combined with the oddly competent art, unmistakable.

Just now, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Math?

For the record, you said 12 maps. So to you I say: Math?

Just now, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Echoes DLC was more expensive than the game itself lmao

Fates and Awakening had pretty good dlc tho.

HoF was 15 bucks, and most other maps were like ~2€ a piece or smth.

It's Echoes and 3H where they were...meh.

Yeah, Fates and Awakening were fine. Later games started to introduce characters, compared to Fates's Anna and Awakening's... none? As far as I recall? But those two went hard on the maps. So many maps.

Just now, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

I dl'd heroes, got the rewards, then deinstalled lol

I couldn't even be arsed lol

Are the weapons any good at all? The S rings have any effects like Olwen?

[Shrimpica]

7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

For the record, you said 12 maps. So to you I say: Math?

I thought Wave 4 only had 6 maps xD

7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

But those two went hard on the maps. So many maps

Yeah hopefully future FE take a page out of that. Heck, give us some "just for fun maps" like Royal Royale or something. Engage would've been honestly perfect for some fun stuff like that xD

8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Are the weapons any good at all? The S rings have any effects like Olwen?

Nah, not that good. They are kinda between steel and Silver with good weight/hit, but fall off very fast. S rings have some nice effects like Spur Atk, but that's about it.

[Acacia Sgt]

I'm pretty sure it's also just six Xenologues, not seven. Could be wrong.

Still, Three Houses had:

7 Cindered Shadows Campaign Maps
2 Relic Maps related to the above
Anna's recruitment map
5 Auxiliary Maps

So it's more like 15 new maps from the DLC.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Acacia Sgt

[Saint Rubenio]

2 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Yeah hopefully future FE take a page out of that. Heck, give us some "just for fun maps" like Royal Royale or something. Engage would've been honestly perfect for some fun stuff like that xD

Engage would definitely have benefitted from having the entire team duke it out with food weapons in Sommie fursuits.

Alas, that would've required allowing for outfit changes in battle. And that's clearly too much to ask of IntSys lolololololololol

[Shrimpica]

5 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

I'm pretty sure it's also just six Xenologues, not seven. Could be wrong.

Still, Three Houses had:

7 Cindered Shadows Campaign Maps
2 Relic Maps related to the above
Anna's recruitment map
5 Auxiliary Maps

So it's more like 15 new maps from the DLC.

Only the CS maps were truly "new" iirc. 

6 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Engage would definitely have benefitted from having the entire team duke it out with food weapons in Sommie fursuits.

Alas, that would've required allowing for outfit changes in battle. And that's clearly too much to ask of IntSys lolololololololol

Pls IS give us custom change next update. We got it in 3H you can do it here!

[Saint Rubenio]

3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

I'm pretty sure it's also just six Xenologues, not seven. Could be wrong.

You think so?

...Wait, come to think of it, why am I so sure it's 7 maps? I have no idea where I read that lol

Ehhh six, seven, what matters is that there is danger that Sommie is gone in the alternate timeline. Now that would be the real evil.

3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Still, Three Houses had:

7 Cindered Shadows Campaign Maps
2 Relic Maps related to the above
Anna's recruitment map
5 Auxiliary Maps

So it's more like 15 new maps from the DLC.

If you count grinding maps, yes. I wouldn't.

Still, that's definitely more than I thought. Didn't know about the relic maps, and I forgot of Anna's map.

Just now, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Only the CS maps were truly "new" iirc.

Oh.

...Of course. This is Houses after all.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Saint Rubenio

[Armagon]

Holy fuck the Loftwing controls are ass.

Edit: i figured it out.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Armagon

[Shrimpica]

Hmm

Now that i finished Engage Until next week

maybe i should return to Sparks of Hope and finish it

Or maybe i should go and try to create a FE map for that contest

[Saint Rubenio]

1 minute ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Hmm

Now that i finished Engage Until next week

maybe i should return to Sparks of Hope and finish it

Or maybe i should go and try to create a FE map for that contest

I've been considering it myself, but I keep running into a wall when it comes to... well, the map itself. Map design is hell lol

[Shrimpica]

5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I've been considering it myself, but I keep running into a wall when it comes to... well, the map itself. Map design is hell lol

Yeah lol

I have a general outline of what i want to do down...but it's just...not easy lol

Especially the balancing will be hell kek

[Acacia Sgt]

8 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Only the CS maps were truly "new" iirc. 

Considering the nature of the Xenologues, I do wonder how many will be new.

I mean, likely all of them, but I'd laugh if we get one that's just a main story map but flipped. XD

8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

You think so?

...Wait, come to think of it, why am I so sure it's 7 maps? I have no idea where I read that lol

Ehhh six, seven, what matters is that there is danger that Sommie is gone in the alternate timeline. Now that would be the real evil.

Likely since CS were 7 maps.

8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

If you count grinding maps, yes. I wouldn't.

Still, that's definitely more than I thought. Didn't know about the relic maps, and I forgot of Anna's map.

I mean, aren't the Divine Paralogues just more places for Skirmishes once you're done with them?

Then again, the Xenologues are likely to also end up for skirmishes too, so the difference is story content. Which yeah, Engage would win, then.

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At the end of the day, though, I don't think Engage's DLC is that much bigger than TH's. At least, from a quick glance.

Map number aside, both will give the same number of new characters at 5. TH has technically 6, but Jeritza was added for free, not paid. Engage offers two new classes but TH gave out four. Sure, the dragon siblings may have custom classes... but will be locked to them. Both are more or less the same in amount of additional outfits/accessories given. So...

Eh, who knows... 

 

[Interdimensional Observer]

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

I need to hurry up

Despite all the skydiving therein, I hope the game doesn't dive-bomb on ya!

...Is it too early to dump unnecessary information on you?😅 Because, about Fi...

Spoiler

...she realllllllllly went through the design process. Reminds me of a certain character or two from our game in need of a sequel, and its associated artbook.

All of these are from the Hyrule Historia. Nobody else in like any other Zelda game had this many designs, or so the Hyrule Historia suggests (it is very possible and indeed likely that many draft sketches have been lost of other characters from other LoZs).

To be fair to Fi, she was Link's new companion, and the soul of the franchise's very important legendary sword. Although Link has undergone many designs: LoZ1, AoL-ALttP-LA's more-or-less singular style (given an update in ALttP GBA), the two OoT incarnations, MM's four maskformations, the more "anime" Oracular Link, the initially-infamous "Celda" of WW and the Four Sword trilogy + PH & ST & TFH, the more dark-serious TP and its Wolf form, the WW-TP compromise of SS, the scarf-wearing Hyrule Warrior, the toy-like LA Switch version, and a Breath of freshness soon to be given another freshening, you can only change the franchise's unchanging hero so much. Fi was a blank-ish canvas, Nintendo could go crazy with her.

A bit of a shame Fi isn't exactly loved, despite all the thought that appears to have been placed into her appearance.

I can't help myself, can I?😆

 

46 minutes ago, ping said:

I much preferred his outgoing (if dorky) and friendly attitute to Squall, who's permanently annoyed at everybody and everything, which extends to his trio being a genuine group of friends as opposed to Squall "...whatever"-ing whenever somebody tries to talk with him.

I'm not fond of Squall myself. Zell is easily the best of the present-day playables, followed by the pretty-unimportant & muted Quistis and Irvine (it has been a long time for me as well with FFVIII, but if you're not Squall or Rinoa, you're very possibly underdeveloped IIRC). I prefer a different PS1 protagonist who has the "loner b/c they're afraid they won't be able to protect anyone dear to them" trait, even if they're flawed in their own way.☀️

And the "...Whatever" meme is partly an English localization decision. He does develop a commonly-used phrase in Japanese, but the English "whatever"s were also used for unrelated statements of antisocial behavior.

[ping]

10 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

And the "...Whatever" meme is partly an English localization decision. He does develop a commonly-used phrase in Japanese, but the English "whatever"s were also used for unrelated statements of antisocial behavior.

Oh, that's funny. "Whatever" seems to generally fit the original tone of some variation on "leave me alone", so I wouldn't assume that Japanese Squall is much of a different character, but it's kinda interesting that the English localisation decides to make it more obvious how predictable Squall is with his reactions.

[Saint Rubenio]

45 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

I mean, aren't the Divine Paralogues just more places for Skirmishes once you're done with them?

The difference is that the paralogues have map design, whereas skirmishes are just "here's enemies for you to kill." They are more carefully constructed, with deliberate challenges for the player to overcome as opposed to simple sandbags to punch.

I suppose calling them chapters would make the distinction more clear.

42 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

At the end of the day, though, I don't think Engage's DLC is that much bigger than TH's. At least, from a quick glance.

Map number aside, both will give the same number of new characters at 5. TH has technically 6, but Jeritza was added for free, not paid. Engage offers two new classes but TH gave out four. Sure, the dragon siblings may have custom classes... but will be locked to them. Both are more or less the same in amount of additional outfits/accessories given. So...

Eh, who knows... 

Jeritza was not a DLC character, he was a base game character they obviously ran out of time to implement, like so many other things in Crimson Flower

We're forgetting about the Emblems here. I feel it's primarily the Emblems that put Engage's DLC above Houses's. Houses offered a campaign, characters, classes and miscellaneous trinkets. Engage offers a campaign, characters, classes, miscellaneous trinkets and Emblems. Of course, Houses didn't have such a thing as Emblems (closest thing would perhaps be battalions, but they aren't nearly as intricate a mechanic), but ultimately, it's one more slew of major content than Houses offered. Even if I'm not going to use them because they do nothing but be Engage's Seths, purportedly.

As for the classes, I'd say in this aspect it's a "quality over quantity" situation. It's only two free classes compared to Houses's four, but they are far more unique and creative than Houses's DLC classes. And of course, just because they belong to one character doesn't mean the other three classes don't exist. They're all look like pretty fun combos to play around with. Except for Nil, but he's obviously not going to be in that sorry state in the main game. If he's there at all.

Lastly, it's kind of a nitpick, but it's worth noting that all five of Engage's DLC characters seem like they're going to be fully fledged. Houses had the Ashen Wolves, and then the worst rendition of Anna with the bare minimum effort put into her. She didn't even have supports lol

Sooo uhhhh tl;dr: I'd say it justifies its slightly higher price by having a little bit more stuff in it, primarily the Emblems. Of course, were it up to me, both would be 10-15 bucks cheaper, but I'm not the multimillionaire corporation('s friend) pricing these things.

[Acacia Sgt]

Yeah, that's true. Specially the Jeritza thing.

Though Engage is cheating in that three of the five are characters that already exist, instead of made from scratch. Much cheaper when the models are already there.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Acacia Sgt

[Lightchao42]

When Aonuma said he had news to share at the beginning of the TotK gameplay showcase, I thought he was going to announce another delay.

Anyway, I finished chapter 2 of Trails to Azure. She has returned...

"And here I was thinking someone just couldn't find a babysitter" -Randy

Spoiler

Also, Gideon was here too. He probably would've been better off surrendering to the SSS.

For as much as I heard about it already, the terrorist attack was smaller scale than I was expecting. They didn't really come close to assassinating anyone and they ended up aiding Osborne/Rocksmith's plans. Not to mention, they probably would've been captured immediately if Campanella didn't hack the security system. Maybe they should've just stayed home? It at least gave an opportunity for Arios, Dudley, Julia, Mueller, Lechter, and Kilika to help us out. Even Jona got to contribute!

Osborne is evil as usual and Rocksmith is openly friendly but no less shrewd, and after all the political nonsense I understand Crois's motives for wanting independence. Even if it will probably lead to him doing... interesting things later.

But it's a good thing nobody tried to hijack the railway guns in Garrelia Fortress, that would've been bad.

I might get Engage's DLC if I ever feel like replaying it... whenever that is.

[Acacia Sgt]

That Towa?

[Shrimpica]

Life is so empty without Engage

[Lightcosmo]

2 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

It's difficult, but they proved they can do it from Fates -> Engage

Different to play, yet similar design philosophy, FE at it's peak

Haha, yeah the odds there are generally not so good, though.

[Saint Rubenio]

20 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Life is so empty without Engage

Pet Sommie for 7 hours a day.

[Acacia Sgt]

36 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Life is so empty without Engage

SRW can fill it back up.

[Saint Rubenio]

5 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

SRW can fill it back up.

Keep in mind he has a week before Engage comes back swinging, if you convince him into SRW now he's just going to drop it halfway like he did Sparks of Hope lolololol

[Shrimpica]

Sparks of Hope is on hold *cough*

I will return to it...this week to try and finish it lol

The real one that might get dropped is Utawaresomething. Just can't stomache it's gameplay, really

Really fell for that "Trails lovers will love this" Trap. Again. I even bought the whole trilogy kek

Edited March 29, 2023 by Shrimpy -Limited Edition-

[Armagon]

2 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Is it too early to dump unnecessary information on you?😅 Because, about Fi...

  Reveal hidden contents

Incredible how a blank slate spirit went through so many redesigns.

 

[Acacia Sgt]

I just noticed...

See, this is why I knew a separate feedback thread would be useless!

Still, nice to see a comment exists at least!