Choose You're Own Role Mafia - Game Over

[Paperblade]

educate yourself

[Da Bear]

Paper I'm guessing you deactivate at *ylo, correct?

[Prims]

Day 1.4 - Votals

Elieson (6) - eclipse, NekoRex, Bluedoom, BigBangMeteor, Kay, Strege

Serious Bananas (6) - Rocker64, Objection, Grassbridger, Refa, Reinfleche, Paperblade

Boron (5) - j00, scorri, Serious Bananas, bearclaw, Shinori

Paperblade (2) - Boron, Proto

Proto (1) - kirsche

Not Voting (1) - Elieson

With 21 alive, it takes 7 to deadline lynch and 11 to hammer. You have 9 hours and 30 minutes left in the day.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Professional Mafia Player

[Paperblade]

Paper I'm guessing you deactivate at *ylo, correct?

yes

[Da Bear]

yes

good.

Unvote

Vote: SB

I think this is the best choice rn.

As far as scumreads go SB > Proto. If necessary I would lynch elie but he seems genuine to me.

[Zkirsche]

scorri, you go first after Marth.

Wait PB what does this mean?

[Grassbridger]

I'm confused--didn't Paper just put 3 people at L-1=6? Or do we refer only to hammer as L?

##Unvote

##Vote: Proto

I should be around to some extent later, and can switch back to one of Paperblade's artificial wagons if necessary, but for now I'm going back to my previous vote.

[Zkirsche]

He put 3 people at L-5.

[scorri]

L-1 typically refers to being one away from hammer.

[charlie_]

welcome to choose you're own wallpost

Just to clear up on the massclaim thing, I support it if BBM can be cleared, but I don't think we should rely on it to win the game for us.

Rereading from the start, I don't think DA BEAR feels as scummy anymore. He's not a townread by any means but still. I don't like how he randomly picks out stuff like this and rather than spending a little time on content he makes fairly useless posts.

Kind of null on the Paper/Boron interactions, annoyingly, although I have kind of role related reasons for wanting to lynch Boron so yeah.

I just realized Proto's vote was on Shinori all game despite him finding DA BEAR scummy (and BBM too, but only sometimes?). Also in the post that kind of bugs me is the fact that he's still suspicious of the fact BBM tried to lead while unproven, despite the fact that I already said that he tried to do this as town in the past (in SFM2) and his point on Paperblade feels like he's yelling "NO, YOU MUST CONTINUE TO TUNNEL".

Refa's been lacking in scumhunting but his activity just kind of dipped in general after earlygame. Would like to see some more content from him.

I don't like the first part of Rein's vote on DA BEAR. Why was being confused about post restrictions scummy? I don't have one either so one or two people randomly having them (or roleplaying, in Boron's case) might confuse people. You also say that he didn't bring it up when eclipse did it, but up to that point I don't think he'd mentioned either of them and I didn't think that he thought that the two of them were scummy for it, and he hasn't really had anything resembling content since then either.

I agree with parts of Boron's vote on DA BEAR but parts don't go well with me, the stuff like not believing a provable role isn't scummy, it's just kind of silly. I also find it kind of odd how she tries to shift pressure to me and Rein specifically without saying anything about us.

Grassbridger kind of bugs me for early content posts really lacking in reads, and the "I will ISO the main wagons at some point soon" gives him a chance to just make up whatever he wants about the potential lynch candidates.

Strege doesn't really bother me that much aside from his earlier Refa vote. Don't have a problem with him. Pedit: Okay the point about his vote still being on Refa is decent I guess. Still doesn't bug me as much as other people though. Liked his case on kirsche.

This kirsche post kind of bugs me, he goes on about BBM and his interactions with Strege but it bugs me that I can't really get a feel of what his actual read on BBM is. I feel like his post sort of inclines that BBM is scummy except for the fact that after expressing his dislike of BBM he then doesn't actually scumread him. This one is also kind of bad. How is it bad that I was pushing on bearclaw if it was the strongest content I had on anyone? Surely pushing someone else would've been contradictory. Also I disagree with the accusations that I was voteparking considering that it hadn't even been 24 hours since I voted and I hadn't been around for most of that time between sleep and school.

Kay bugs me because her vote on me was for a supposed contradiction that she doesn't even say why they're scummy. She just says "I'm voting for the guy who said these things that contradict each other". It feels like she's giving an easy avenue of escape from my lynch. Also this post basically says "okay your responses are okay but you still might be scum" and doesn't really say anything else on me, and pretty much the only reason I could pick out from that for why I would be scummy is that there might be a cult in the game

One of Objection's posts bugs me as the comment that the post was bad really doesn't sit well with me. Also his Proto criticism annoys me because although he doesn't have many reads, neither does Objection. The fact he identified this himself doesn't make this any better.

Not super fond of Elieson's first content post, it focuses too much on BBM and at the end just puts him as a null read. In comparison, he barely says anything on one of his scumreads (Proto) and says that his posts look way too fabricated, which imo is a bad reason. Townies can take a while on their votes too. The others aren't as bad, but that one just feels thrown in there. In response to this BBM post, I can kind of see it now, but at the same time I don't really feel like he was pushing you as scum for it, which was the implication I got from Grass' post. I also don't get when you respond to me here, how can an action be suspicious but not scummy? Isn't that contradictory?

I feel like Paperblade's role is too weird to be scum, but last time I thought that was Touhou Manix, so yeah. Masspersuade is probably stronger than that was though.

oh god i cant read kirsche's #245 right now or my brain will explode

I guess I can claim if people want me to.

[charlie_]

oh yeah

##Unvote

##Vote: Proto

[Zkirsche]

I feel like his post sort of inclines that BBM is scummy except for the fact that after expressing his dislike of BBM he then doesn't actually scumread him.

I've been nullreading BBM the whole game, which is why you couldn't tell what my opinion of him was: I didn't really have one. Not one of much note at least.

How is it bad that I was pushing on bearclaw if it was the strongest content I had on anyone? Surely pushing someone else would've been contradictory.

It just didn't feel like you were pushing anyone. That's changed now obviously.

Will probably read stuff not directed at me later.

[Paperblade]

Wait PB what does this mean?

click

My role would be pretty op for scum to have since I could save anyone but myself from a lynch.

[Zkirsche]

SB's other content is ok. I think my stance on who should be the alternative is obvious now.

[charlie_]

man you guys would stop posting as soon as i get caught up

[Elieson]

argh with no one on jsnd (I swear it just clicked that he is BEARS), I'll move on my Proto read as an actual potential lynchee.

##Vote Protoman

[Paperblade]

This Proto lynch is awful

[Sunwoo]

What the actual fuck even happened I don't have time to deal with this right now ugh

I only skimmed through the thread real quick so not everything stuck with me, but SB what do you mean you have role related reason to want to lynch me? I have not claimed or crumbed anything at all. So unless you have other reasons to want to lynch me over role then elaborate.

Paperblade ... >;/

Grassbridger and kirsche: I'm not trying to AtE, and don't you think Paperblade saying "I'm not going to respond to Boron because it might get emotionally charged" annoyed me as well?

I'll be leaving in about 10 minutes or so. After that not responding for several hours.

[Zkirsche]

This Proto lynch is awful

Oh I guess I'll just take your word for it.

##Unvote

..

##Vote: Proto

Mind elaborating?

don't you think Paperblade saying "I'm not going to respond to Boron because it might get emotionally charged" annoyed me as well?

I think you're making a bigger deal out of everything he's saying than you should be and it's bugging me.

[charlie_]

role results combined with (admittedly weak) mod meta. I can go into more detail if I need to claim.

[charlie_]

^was in response to boron

[Sunwoo]

I think you're making a bigger deal out of everything he's saying than you should be and it's bugging me.

Look, maybe that's true and maybe it isn't. I'm not of the right mind to say. But that one statement REALLY bugged me on a personal level. Because that statement can be interpreted in one of two ways and one of them feels like a personal jab about my previous play in mafia games.

[Da Bear]

uggh so people are now all moving onto Proto (he's at 4 votes now?)

Unsure whether I'd like him or SB more because SB's content post looks townie (imo) and makes several good points.

Out of the people who paper boosted and Proto my priority is something like this.

Proto = SB > Eli >>> Boron

[Da Bear]

ninja'd all the way back at Boron's first post...

wtf sf not telling me.

[Sunwoo]

role results combined with (admittedly weak) mod meta. I can go into more detail if I need to claim.

What the fuck

Okay, I'm going to have to leave in about 15 minutes (fuck lunch, I can go on without eating another two hours) and if I have to claim I'd rather do it with a decent amount of time. Do you guys want me to claim?