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With bravado, I mean your insistence of town being wrong.

Of course, props to it being such a perfectly fitting quote.

Yeah, I kind of got super salty, and i'm really pissed off for outside reasons, but why not bring it into the game? :D Hence, my bitch comment. I tried to cool down, which I think is working. (gif helped, gotta' love Blair <3)

Because toDay is my last day (hopefully) that I am alive with my ability. But I need to just think on something.

How much longer do we have in the Day Phase?

But, scum can easily idle and not kill you, so what is happening now? (You redirect actions to yourself, right?)

Same question, how much longer? Also, what happens if no one hammers? I'm pretty sure we only have about 12 hours.

I was on break at around 11:30, and before that, SB said we had, iirc,27 hours and 24 ish minutes. That would be 36 hours ago, which... doesn'tadd up...

Not sure howmuch longer, dont listen to me.

I'll go check, check, for reals thistime.

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Mk, AFRICAN THIS IS NOT YOUR POST I WILL DO THAT ANOTHER TIME.

Work until 11PM today, home at 11:30, bed when i get home, work at 8-3 tomorrow. THEN I shall read and get back to everything, posting during my break right now. Will talk tomorrow, ignore the inactivity.

Mk, thanks, ciao all!

Woops wrong break, this was Thursday, not yesterday.

(4) Hannah: Elieson, J, Prims, Omega (L-2!)

(1) J: Gaius

(1) Omega: BBM

(1) Gaius: Bluedoom

(3) Not Voting: Gorf, Hannah, Snike

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. There are 49 hours and 38 minutes left in the day.

(4) Hannah: Elieson, J, Prims, Omega (L-2!)

(1) J: Gaius

(1) Omega: BBM

(4) Not Voting: Bluedoom, Gorf, Hannah, Snike

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. There are 28 hours and 48 minutes left in the day.

So, 24 hours from then will be in 8 hours. We have about 12 hours left in the day, if my math is sound. Give or take an hour or two, since it 48 minutes and posting at 8:57 am, not 8:00 AM.

IDK, but we have a reasonable amount of time.

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dude i dont even understand

like i walk into the thread and BAM hannah but its sooooooo dense

so like fuck im drunk and idk how to tackle it

someone give me an opinion on hannahs content and ill sheep.skimmin through tho it kinda pisses me off that its defending himself than actively pursuing.

but then again fuck lol

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I'm a Zombie-Treestump.

#1: Congrats to whomever actually vocalized the concept of how to counter J's mechanics in terms of NK's. HOWEVER, there is still other means of proving his role, if any other town-sided PR's exist/can verify come the next day phase. Either way, J's role isn't terribly difficult to decipher/prove either way, but I do not believe that saying "OH, but you can counter proving X's role by doing Y" is a great thing to out publicly (I'd say that it's almost as bad as needlessly claiming/stating role shizz without warrant.)

#2. I personally don't feel as though Hannah's latest posts really do much to change the suspect on her slot. For several reasons:

> A. She should've been notified via PM that her neighbor/access to the QT between her neighbor was removed/down ever since Eclipse has died. This has happened with neighbor roles, Masons, and/or other means of limited OC that I've encountered/have rolled as in the past, so I doubt there should be any reason for her not to know/realize that Eclipse was dead if she (Hannah) were a fellow townie. ((Also, with Eclipse having been confirmed town by her death/flip, I'm figuring Hannah's more likely to flip scum than town-side at this point.))

> B. Asking about "Who is BBM?" Makes it seem like she's either not putting much effort into re-reading while she can (which reads of poor gameplay, and the fact that she can look at the OP for referrence/ISO's also makes the "IDK WHO THIS PERSON IS" seem also off to me) or something else. Drops a weird vibe to me either way.

> C. Since when has the Hannah wagon been "random"? She claims that her wagon comes out of the blue, when in reality her slot has been under a lot of suspect since D1.

> D. Wrt this comment she made: "I don't know what you mean, scum could be Prims or someone else people are reading as townie, don't be so sure of town winning. Indy?" - What does this comment even do? She notes Prims or "Someone else people are reading as townie", which basically does nothing but attempt to smear/cast doubt upon the general townreads that are floating around currently? (While I may not personally agree with all of them myself, this is an easy attempt/way for her to put off suspicion from her wagon and onto the rest of the playerbase without much effort/use of solid cases, which is what I'm finding scummy here.)

> E. She hasn't posted any sort of real priority/solid cases at this point. I'm not seeing any votes from her, she was keen on just self-hammering right out the gate, and otherwise still hasn't said "Who is scum and why?". The fact that she's not pushing forth scum-hunting efforts or otherwise attempting to do something for townside (Even if her wagon is inevitable) gives us nothing more, which feels more like scum!flailing about vs. town!flailing. Also, the means in terms of discrediting J's role claim and/or attempting to object to him testing/using his role also serves to undermine the general consensus/probably the strongest play option we have available to us this incoming night phase, so I don't care for that either.

Tl;dr: Still okay with Lynching Hannah slot. Nothing has changed for me.

...so lonely and so dead. :[

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yea this isn't really swaying me because there's a lot of trying to get people to not vote her but she's not offering any alternatives

hannah I had an entire post talking about my reads today and that discussed why I thought you looked scummy after Gilgamesh's flip. your walls of text are mostly you asking "why me?", but

who if not you?

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if J is town, I don't think scum would no-kill him, on the grounds that it'd add another mislynch on the numbers side anyway. Easier to just let him die at night and deny town a phase where they can use their night actions.

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thats one of the most retarded things EVER prims

ive been well aware of this possible no killing thing ever since he fuckin claimed. it basically means no matter what j will probably do no more than prove a lightningrod role by attracting everybody.

which holds zero fucking weight on his alignment

which is why, j, if youre town and have been actually reading this game then wow. the fact that you didnt fucking see this situation coming is ridiculous. the fact that scum can choose to no kill HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THREAD, yet you fucking choose to claim that shit. a lightningrod. A LIGHTNINGROD. fuckin think dude, the lynch looked like it was steering toward hannah by the time of your claim and you couldve proved yourself quietly by fucking dying with respect and letting us move forward. but no.

personally, i dont think j is this much of an absolute moron, which is why i think j MUST be scum. i believe in j wanting to buy an extra Day way more than him not fucking being capable enough of a reader to be able to discern how important BEING ABLE TO BYPASS YOUR FACTIONAL NIGHT KILL IS. when he inevitably lives to see toMorrow, we turbo.

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thats one of the most retarded things EVER prims

what

I'm saying that if J uses his ability tonight and doesn't die he's scum (barring doc or some shit) since scum logically won't no-kill due to numbers

10 players are alive, so if you were scum right now and J was town, why would you no-kill then mislynch him instead of just nightkilling him? he's dying either way but if you let him live then he has theoretical wiggle room and town has more night phases to work with

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I also thought of the nokill thing when he first mentioned it and went through the scenarios tonight with a town J. Idling and mislynching instead of killing J brings the game to LYLO rather than MYLO, but gives the town one extra night phase of actions and still requires the same amount of non-J mislynches. I didn't see the point in bringing it up though, and I wanted to see what reaction J himself would have if he survived to D4.

anyways I have to leave in like 15 minutes and won't be here for phase end. I don't want to lynch Hannah but realistically I can't think of another person who is going to be lynched today at this point, since nobody wants to lynch Omega and J isn't a great lynch choice either.

J is ascetic too btw so he literally can't survive if he's town and mafia doesn't idle their kill.

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Marshy, tell me in this instance why I shouldn't wagon-snap you.

so you have literally spent 3 days doing nothing but pushing me/hannah and now that the latter is on the verge of bein lynched you get cold feet then insist on continuing to be wrong on me?

regardless of your alignment i cannot WAIT for you to die cuz you hav been nothing but an enormous distraction this entire game

@african thoughts if hannah flips town or you want to wait til d4 to discuss that?

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Man I feel like I should add to the discussion but while I was sleeping a bunch of stuff happened that just looped around full circle

I guess all I can say is that this morning the thought of a potential ?strongwilled? kill (what's the one that ignores redirects and hooks) popped in my head but on the flip side I don't even know what priorities would to for it so this is like a giant waste of space post idk

@BBM I could hop on an Omega wagon, he's pretty much my other confident scumread at this point

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(4) Hannah: Elieson, Prims, Omega, Gorf
(1) J: Gaius
(1) Omega: BBM
(4) Not Voting: Bluedoom, Hannah, J, Snike

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. There are 3 hours and 48 minutes left in the day.

ftr in the future please remember the ## before voting/unvoting because I very nearly called the phase just now.

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Hammer due to Gaius' role, no, yes?

Ugh, doing this on phone, bear with me. Deadline I'm about 3 hours, I think?

Hannah, throw a vote down before you go.

Too late.

Insert bold here, which I will do when on my laptop, VOTE OMEGA. ALso will explain, even If I don't have much.

dude i dont even understand

like i walk into the thread and BAM hannah but its sooooooo dense

so like fuck im drunk and idk how to tackle it

someone give me an opinion on hannahs content and ill sheep.skimmin through tho it kinda pisses me off that its defending himself than actively pursuing.

but then again fuck lol

I was a bit passed off, and I got pretty dense and "Haha I'm just a dick townie"

yea this isn't really swaying me because there's a lot of trying to get people to not vote her but she's not offering any alternativeshannah I had an entire post talking about my reads today and that discussed why I thought you looked scummy after Gilgamesh's flip. your walls of text are mostly you asking "why me?", but

Yeah, I just realized I didn't offer alternatives. I'd like Omega, For some illegitimate reasons really.

if J is town, I don't think scum would no-kill him, on the grounds that it'd add another mislynch on the numbers side anyway. Easier to just let him die at night and deny town a phase where they can use their night actions.

So we have, whay do you think, 2v8? We killed 1 thirdP and killed 1 mafia, and then, what, 3 town?

Starting uh, 3v11v1? Seems a bit town sided, but ehh.

I die:

1v8 or 2v7

J dies:

1v7 or 2v6

What mylo/lylo would we be in?

Um I'm sick of my phone so I'll be cutting this shorter than I planned.

If we were to test the J claim tonight, everyome should idle, right? If ascetic, as BBM said, (or elie maybe?) They'll all be wasted anyway (if 1-shot).

Blah to laptop I go >.<

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