Peppy Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Dat Rules (borrowed/stolen from Integrity) - Ratings are assumed to be on Hard 1 Mode. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. Also, if your vote is already a 10/10 or greater than 9 and you give a full point of bias, The score may not exceed 10! - Numerical votes out of 10, or something proportional to it. Make it easy to calculate for my sake. - Every ranking phase ends from 2100 to 2200 EST. Every ranking phase starts from 2200 EST to 2300 EST. Do the math if you are in another timezone! - I will insist you do not use the "Not X" reason on any character, where X is another unit. If you do, your vote will be thrown out. - "Recruits X" or "takes you to X chapter" arguments are explicitly banned. C'mon, people, this shouldn't need to be a rule. That's not gameplay performance. - Assume that the character in question is being recruited. - Similar to the "Recruits X" rule, do not use "He Comes with a Free Ridersbane" as an argument. - Rate the character based on his/her performance without the Rainbow Potion, Maturity Drop or Bond Drop - I withhold the privilege to tell you your rating is bogus and demand you revise it if it breaks any of the above. I will not throw out votes anonymously, you will be informed and given a chance to revise. Oh... an Ayanami... Your votes will taken be less seriously if you don't stop giving multiple ratings! One. Rating. For. H1. A.K.A. Hard. Difficulty. Should be simple! Averages: Yubello: 1.52 Norne: 2.28 Rickard: 2.72 Samto: 2.90 Wrys: 3.00 Bord: 3.25 Matthis: 3.60 Radd: 3.64 Cord: 3.83 Warren: 4.35 Caesar: 4.87 Castor: 5.62 Linde: 6.27 Gordin: 6.33 Navarre: 6.50 Arran: 6.62 Frey: 6.87 Cecil: 7.21 Ryan: 7.71 Wendell: 7.83 Barst: 7.87 Julian: 7.95 Draug: 8.14 : 8.15Yumina: 8.20 Rody: 8.43 Luke: 8.56 Marth: 8.70 Ogma: 9.00 Sirius: 9.31 Malliesia: 9.50 Feena: 9.53 Catria: 9.73 Palla: 9.86 My Unit: 9.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 6/10. Acceptable bases, okay growths, crucial in LTCing prologue, passable in main game. Wish he comes with higher Lance rank, but still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Cain is like, an awesome unit. He's great in prologue even if its only for a chapter, and when he comes back, even if he's a tad slower for the next few chapters, there's always base arena. He Surprisingly makes an AWESOME pirate, I know a lot of other units do, but this guy has wtf spd growth and his str growth would be 55%, which is decent, I mean srsly, what is up with that? Actually, scratch pirate, go fighter. He gets an even better str growth and70% spd growth is STILL SOLID. Heck he can even go Knight and have a chance of getting +2 HP, AND 50% Def growth. Yeah his growths are definetly fun to play with. See, he's also just a lvl away from getting promoted, and that helps his bases a bit. A bit of base arena training and he starts to do pretty well. He even has a better luck growth than Frey to boot. Tbh, his ONLY problem ever is his base stats and join time. If he had joined say 2-3 chapters earlier, he'd probably be much more useful. In short: + Awesome Growths +Awesome Weapon Ranks +Awesome Name and Mug -Slightly late Join Time -Mediocre bases at Join Time. He still gets bias from me because he's one of my favourite Archaenean characters, so 9/10 Edited May 18, 2012 by Marth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) lmao 10 base speed. Helps in Prologue but his usefulness afterwards is questionable because of how bad his bases are relative to enemies. 4/10 Edited May 18, 2012 by Dark Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Instant armorslayer. Easy to get up to speed. Clutch in prologue. With awesome growths to boot. His lance rank hurts, but this is H1, he can be fixed so easily its not even funny. 7/10 +1 bias because he got way too badass in Fe12 makes that 8/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Purple_Knight Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Cain is like, an awesome unit. He's great in prologue even if its only for a chapter, and when he comes back, even if he's a tad slower for the next few chapters, there's always base arena. He Surprisingly makes an AWESOME pirate, I know a lot of other units do, but this guy has wtf spd growth and his str growth would be 55%, which is decent, I mean srsly, what is up with that? Actually, scratch pirate, go fighter. He gets an even better str growth and70% spd growth is STILL SOLID. Heck he can even go Knight and have a chance of getting +2 HP, AND 50% Def growth. Yeah his growths are definetly fun to play with. See, he's also just a lvl away from getting promoted, and that helps his bases a bit. A bit of base arena training and he starts to do pretty well. He even has a better luck growth than Frey to boot. Tbh, his ONLY problem ever is his base stats and join time. If he had joined say 2-3 chapters earlier, he'd probably be much more useful. In short: + Awesome Growths +Awesome Weapon Ranks +Awesome Name and Mug -Slightly late Join Time -Mediocre bases at Join Time. He still gets bias from me because he's one of my favourite Archaenean characters, so 9/10 mark me down for a 9/10 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I can see why people think Cain is good but 9/10 really REALLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Beats me Lumi. Bias I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Cain's hot, but I don't think I'd be rating him 9/10, even with bias. Speaking of. . . He's yet another mounted Armorslayer, but if you planned things right, he can promote right off the bat. If not, then getting him a level shouldn't be too painful, since he doesn't mind the base arena. 7.5/10 (with a bias point for being a sexy beast) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 lmao 10 base speed. Helps in Prologue but his usefulness afterwards is questionable because of how bad his bases are relative to enemies. 4/10 This isnt H3. Cain hardly has any trouble catching up in H1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Cain is like, an awesome unit. He's great in prologue even if its only for a chapter, and when he comes back, even if he's a tad slower for the next few chapters, there's always base arena. He Surprisingly makes an AWESOME pirate, I know a lot of other units do, but this guy has wtf spd growth and his str growth would be 55%, which is decent, I mean srsly, what is up with that? Actually, scratch pirate, go fighter. He gets an even better str growth and70% spd growth is STILL SOLID. Heck he can even go Knight and have a chance of getting +2 HP, AND 50% Def growth. Yeah his growths are definetly fun to play with. See, he's also just a lvl away from getting promoted, and that helps his bases a bit. A bit of base arena training and he starts to do pretty well. He even has a better luck growth than Frey to boot. Tbh, his ONLY problem ever is his base stats and join time. If he had joined say 2-3 chapters earlier, he'd probably be much more useful. In short: + Awesome Growths +Awesome Weapon Ranks +Awesome Name and Mug -Slightly late Join Time -Mediocre bases at Join Time. He still gets bias from me because he's one of my favourite Archaenean characters, so 9/10 Lumi has a point. Cain is definitely not deserving of a 9/10! Try again, Guy who wrote this and Guy who quoted this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 But richter, that is their opinion. They justified why they think he deserves 9/10 pretty well. I dont agree cain deserves 9/10 despite how awesome he performs for me in drafts but that is their opinion and theyre entitled to give him whatever they want, as long as its justified. If anything, the vote you should throw in a blender is dark sage's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 and that's an 8/10 with bias Cain is still very good in H1 without many rescources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Actually what they justified, imo, does not warrant even an 8/10 since Cain's bases actually do hurt a lot and they only did a passing mention of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 8 is probably too high, Cain is like Navarre with prologue utility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Purple_Knight Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Lumi has a point. Cain is definitely not deserving of a 9/10! Try again, Guy who wrote this and Guy who quoted this! Nah I'm to lazy to come up with an actually rating this time . Just don't count my vote I'll try again next round thanks Edited May 18, 2012 by The_Purple_Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Cain. Basically, he's Frey with sword specialization + Prologue 8. Or Navarre who gains speed faster, but strength slower + D Lances. 8/10 (7/10 with +1 bias for being so damn good lookin' in this game. Sorry Abel, you lose in the looks department this round. Yeah, Cain doesn't really need the bias help with the other high scores posted, but... bleh.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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