scorri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I at least have seen Elie's wincon and can confirm it's town wincon. I can understand if you don't believe me or want confirmation from Elie, but I saw it N0 and have been trusting him since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You are a Citizen of Antioch. You win if the Werewolves and the Void are eliminated. You are also the <CUT>. You only win as long as the Void is eliminated while you are still alive. This is the full wincon Elie just claimed to me. It could just as easily be: You are a Citizen of Antioch. You win if the Werewolves and the Void are eliminated. You are also the <CUT>. You also win as long as the Void is eliminated while you are still alive. I would really encourage people who have not yet claimed to Elie to not do so, especially those with PRs. I was a bit dumb and didn't realize earlier that his wincon means he could joint with mafia (if it's the second option). If Elie can alternately win by killing cult before he dies, jointing with mafia allows him to get access to a kill every night to help hunt down the backup Cult Leader. And the mafia want to kill the cult too, plus they get all the claims from Elie to hunt down after the CL is dead and Elie has won the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 ##Vote: Mancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It turns out the second uncultable claim was a false alarm. It had nothing to do with their role, only with the actions of another, who has corroborated their story. Based on what I've seen, I have more reason to think that Rapier is the leak. ##Vote: Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 When did Sho say he was unrecruitable Mancer? Like every single time we spoke to each other on Skype. He told me that as the maker of the Stone, he's immune to the Void's influence. I guess it's basically between Sho and Eli 1v1 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Like every single time we spoke to each other on Skype. He told me that as the maker of the Stone, he's immune to the Void's influence. I guess it's basically between Sho and Eli 1v1 now? Logs please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Like every single time we spoke to each other on Skype. He told me that as the maker of the Stone, he's immune to the Void's influence. I guess it's basically between Sho and Eli 1v1 now? He also asked me to try and trick a hypothetical cult leader onto him so I believe he's claimed and crumbed Uncultable a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Logs please. When I'm home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Mmm, Sho told me he was uncultable, but it was for reasons of items not due to his natural role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 A) Yes I have claimed around I am uncultable B) It has nothing to do with my role C) It has nothing to do with Philosopher's stone D) What it has to do with is item that re-targets any action towards me to another player, thus making me uncultable. I have been aware of Elie's magus status for the longest time and thus (with his approval) I used the item on him. E) I got the item from Eli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So do you disagree with Mancer's statements then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 How could I possibly agree with it when I point by point state its not correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Do you mind providing the logs of the conversation where you told Mancer that you were uncultable then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 as much as i hate using meta this isn't the first time mancer has been untruthful regarding logs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 There's a reason I want to see both sets of logs. Since it's 9:30 in the morning for Mancer, I'm giving him ~12 hours before I assume anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 [17.1.2013 5:04:59] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: At least you're not BBM/Bluedoom/SB [17.1.2013 5:05:03] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: They are so thin-lipped [17.1.2013 5:05:06] Saku Suonpää: what purpose does it serve [17.1.2013 5:05:25] Saku Suonpää: to let lucina know what elie's item does [17.1.2013 5:05:39] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to confirm if Bluedoom is lying or not [17.1.2013 5:05:45] Saku Suonpää: ah [17.1.2013 5:06:01] Saku Suonpää: and she want this info because? [17.1.2013 5:06:02] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: And she knows what Bluedoon said the item wa already [17.1.2013 5:06:08] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to confirm it [17.1.2013 5:06:16] Saku Suonpää: AND your word for it is ok while elie's is not [17.1.2013 5:06:19] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Here's the scary part [17.1.2013 5:06:35] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to Silence me [17.1.2013 5:06:42] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: If you are right about her being Cult [17.1.2013 5:06:51] Saku Suonpää: awesome [17.1.2013 5:07:12] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: You need a Safeguard on me or RoleBlock on her pronto [17.1.2013 5:07:30] Saku Suonpää: yeah i dont have access to those things [17.1.2013 5:07:49] Saku Suonpää: Only thing I can do [17.1.2013 5:07:55] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I was thinking she was scum Silencer [17.1.2013 5:07:58] Saku Suonpää: is that [17.1.2013 5:07:58] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: But now she's apparently Cult [17.1.2013 5:08:11] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Get a Driver on me? [17.1.2013 5:08:14] Saku Suonpää: you can safely trick her into targetting me [17.1.2013 5:08:23] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: How would I do that? [17.1.2013 5:08:28] Saku Suonpää: If you get her target me [17.1.2013 5:08:36] Saku Suonpää: it will be ok [17.1.2013 5:08:45] Saku Suonpää: i do not know [17.1.2013 5:09:02] Saku Suonpää: you pretty much have to hope that mods are not asshole [17.1.2013 5:09:04] Saku Suonpää: s [17.1.2013 5:09:25] Saku Suonpää: aka if she dies her action does not go trough [17.1.2013 5:09:47] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: The Vig is Vigging her tonight? [17.1.2013 5:09:52] Saku Suonpää: Likely [17.1.2013 5:10:01] Saku Suonpää: we had disagreement onif [17.1.2013 5:10:15] Saku Suonpää: the vig shot shinori and we lynch lucina [17.1.2013 5:10:15] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Tell me who the Vig is [17.1.2013 5:10:22] Saku Suonpää: or the other way around [17.1.2013 5:10:29] Saku Suonpää: yeah no [17.1.2013 5:10:40] Saku Suonpää: i will not tell you who the vig is [17.1.2013 5:10:50] Saku Suonpää: you have cult leader on your ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Fuck, I forgot to hide the names to protect the innocent XD I am Saku, Mancer is Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 [8:46:13 PM] Cam: i feel like either rapier or sho is scum [8:46:31 PM] Cam: because the only way i can figure that scum would want to kill rein when there are far better targets [8:46:37 PM] Cam: would be if someone sold him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 [17.1.2013 5:04:59] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: At least you're not BBM/Bluedoom/SB [17.1.2013 5:05:03] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: They are so thin-lipped [17.1.2013 5:05:06] Saku Suonpää: what purpose does it serve [17.1.2013 5:05:25] Saku Suonpää: to let lucina know what elie's item does [17.1.2013 5:05:39] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to confirm if Bluedoom is lying or not [17.1.2013 5:05:45] Saku Suonpää: ah [17.1.2013 5:06:01] Saku Suonpää: and she want this info because? [17.1.2013 5:06:02] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: And she knows what Bluedoon said the item wa already [17.1.2013 5:06:08] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to confirm it [17.1.2013 5:06:16] Saku Suonpää: AND your word for it is ok while elie's is not [17.1.2013 5:06:19] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Here's the scary part [17.1.2013 5:06:35] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: She wants to Silence me [17.1.2013 5:06:42] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: If you are right about her being Cult [17.1.2013 5:06:51] Saku Suonpää: awesome [17.1.2013 5:07:12] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: You need a Safeguard on me or RoleBlock on her pronto [17.1.2013 5:07:30] Saku Suonpää: yeah i dont have access to those things [17.1.2013 5:07:49] Saku Suonpää: Only thing I can do [17.1.2013 5:07:55] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I was thinking she was scum Silencer [17.1.2013 5:07:58] Saku Suonpää: is that [17.1.2013 5:07:58] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: But now she's apparently Cult [17.1.2013 5:08:11] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Get a Driver on me? [17.1.2013 5:08:14] Saku Suonpää: you can safely trick her into targetting me [17.1.2013 5:08:23] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: How would I do that? [17.1.2013 5:08:28] Saku Suonpää: If you get her target me [17.1.2013 5:08:36] Saku Suonpää: it will be ok [17.1.2013 5:08:45] Saku Suonpää: i do not know [17.1.2013 5:09:02] Saku Suonpää: you pretty much have to hope that mods are not asshole [17.1.2013 5:09:04] Saku Suonpää: s [17.1.2013 5:09:25] Saku Suonpää: aka if she dies her action does not go trough [17.1.2013 5:09:47] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: The Vig is Vigging her tonight? [17.1.2013 5:09:52] Saku Suonpää: Likely [17.1.2013 5:10:01] Saku Suonpää: we had disagreement onif [17.1.2013 5:10:15] Saku Suonpää: the vig shot shinori and we lynch lucina [17.1.2013 5:10:15] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Tell me who the Vig is [17.1.2013 5:10:22] Saku Suonpää: or the other way around [17.1.2013 5:10:29] Saku Suonpää: yeah no [17.1.2013 5:10:40] Saku Suonpää: i will not tell you who the vig is [17.1.2013 5:10:50] Saku Suonpää: you have cult leader on your ass There's more than that. You claimed Uncultable right at the start when you claimed your Alchemist role to me. You need to get that log, Sho. Yes, this particular log is real and not fabricated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Fuck, I forgot to hide the names to protect the innocent XD I am Saku, Mancer is Ashley Lol. I don't mind, and I think a lot of people know my name already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This log? [14.1.2013 18:26:56] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Oh [14.1.2013 18:27:04] Saku Suonpää: I am 90% we have them all [14.1.2013 18:27:07] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: That counts as an item too *facepalm* [14.1.2013 18:27:12] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Which means [14.1.2013 18:27:20] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: If I get Culted [14.1.2013 18:27:42] Saku Suonpää: if you and stone holder get culted [14.1.2013 18:27:45] Saku Suonpää: its shitty [14.1.2013 18:27:50] Saku Suonpää: other than that [14.1.2013 18:27:55] Saku Suonpää: we can deal with it [14.1.2013 18:28:03] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I was actually going to ask this: Are you Cultproof? [14.1.2013 18:28:07] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'd guess not after what you claimed [14.1.2013 18:28:13] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: But meh [14.1.2013 18:28:23] Saku Suonpää: I am not cult proo [14.1.2013 18:28:24] Saku Suonpää: f [14.1.2013 18:28:26] Saku Suonpää: but [14.1.2013 18:28:28] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Anyway, I'm heading to bed now [14.1.2013 18:28:36] Saku Suonpää: i have some cult countermeasure's planned [14.1.2013 18:28:38] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Speak to you tomorrow? [14.1.2013 18:28:44] Saku Suonpää: of course [14.1.2013 18:28:51] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Kay, Night Or this? [04:46] <ShotheImpaler> I need to make up a piece of log so do not mind me [04:47] <ShotheImpaler> Yes I am indeed cultproof mancer. [04:47] <Sangyul> ;/ [04:47] <Sangyul> Suuuure [04:48] <ShotheImpaler> I am also the son of ELvis Presley, Dad of mother teresa and that one guy that shot down king kong [04:48] <Sangyul> You're also a hair dryer [04:48] <ShotheImpaler> I also have 4 foot long genitalia [04:48] <ShotheImpaler> and I posses the greatest emo bangs in all existance [04:48] <ShotheImpaler> up to and including any given work of fiction [04:49] <ShotheImpaler> ok I am done here. [04:49] <Sangyul> Bye [04:49] <ShotheImpaler> have a nice whatever it is you have there [04:49] <ShotheImpaler> day [04:49] <ShotheImpaler> evening Why am I pulling out the logs when its you who claim I said that? And yes the first one is actual log Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It turns out the second uncultable claim was a false alarm. It had nothing to do with their role, only with the actions of another, who has corroborated their story. Based on what I've seen, I have more reason to think that Rapier is the leak. ##Vote: Rapier Care to explain why, instead of saying "I believe this guy here did something bad, so *votes*"? Thank you very much. I believe Sho's town because we revealed we were Vanilla Townies at the same time, and I don't belive this is a coincidence. Nothing stops one of us from being in the Cult, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Why would Rein cult one of use when he is playing us like fools anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Rapier, Unless proven otherwise, I believe mafia knew Rein had the stone. I have reason to trust Sho, but no reason to trust you at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 [3:34:30] Saku Suonpää: eli [3:34:48] Saku Suonpää: were you honest about your item missing [3:35:10] Saku Suonpää: because i am just about to vote Mancer for taking it [5:37:03] Eli: Ok [5:37:08] Eli: I'm back from work [5:38:09] Eli: No I have it, I was awaiting information from elsewhere before I told you I have it will. I asked macer to take cores "item" and apparently he came up empty handed but claimed ordered by u to take my item for whatever reason [5:38:56] Saku Suonpää: ... [5:39:01] Saku Suonpää: he said [5:39:06] Saku Suonpää: i told him [5:39:10] Saku Suonpää: to take your item [5:39:15] Saku Suonpää: correct? [5:39:24] Eli: And apparently Lucy was involved too [5:39:43] Eli: Ya [5:39:59] Saku Suonpää: imma dig out a little piece of log ya know [5:40:12] Saku Suonpää: and then im going to go vote him [5:40:24] Saku Suonpää: lil pressure so he can tell me [5:40:25] Saku Suonpää: what [5:40:27] Saku Suonpää: the fuck [5:40:59] Eli: Because Lucina wants me to confirm this claim by making me Barter with you (((((Don't tell anyone this))))) [5:41:04] Eli: Err,Mancer quote [5:41:24] Eli: I can't quote right on my phone but he said that to me [5:41:39] Saku Suonpää: [17.1.2013 2:02:51] Saku Suonpää: you there? [17.1.2013 4:42:14] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Semi here cause of school [17.1.2013 4:42:25] Saku Suonpää: k [17.1.2013 4:42:30] Saku Suonpää: target helios [17.1.2013 4:42:52] Saku Suonpää: he might be the responsible of BBM's tolen item [17.1.2013 4:43:10] Saku Suonpää: Might as well check if he has it [17.1.2013 4:44:47] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Alright, but it might have to wait till N2 [17.1.2013 4:44:56] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I promised someone else to help them confirm something N1 [17.1.2013 4:45:07] Saku Suonpää: ...Why? [17.1.2013 4:45:27] Saku Suonpää: what is it? [17.1.2013 4:46:23] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: It's related to a scumread of mine and another person's [17.1.2013 4:46:39] Saku Suonpää: care to tell? [17.1.2013 4:47:07] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Not at this moment [17.1.2013 4:47:18] Saku Suonpää: ...great [17.1.2013 4:47:18] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'll explain more in D2 depending on the result [17.1.2013 4:47:36] Saku Suonpää: could you at least tell who you are targetting? [17.1.2013 4:48:26] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I can if you keep it secret [17.1.2013 4:48:37] Saku Suonpää: sure [17.1.2013 4:48:46] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Elieson [17.1.2013 4:48:59] Saku Suonpää: aha [17.1.2013 4:49:02] Saku Suonpää: Dont [17.1.2013 4:49:12] Saku Suonpää: he has item [17.1.2013 4:49:21] Saku Suonpää: and its absolutely vital he keeps it [17.1.2013 4:49:29] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I know that he has an item [17.1.2013 4:49:46] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: What hinges on that transaction is whether or not Abhi is telling the truth [17.1.2013 4:49:48] Saku Suonpää: And I vouch for it being terrible idea to take it away from him [17.1.2013 4:50:03] Saku Suonpää: ... [17.1.2013 4:50:07] Saku Suonpää: explain [17.1.2013 4:50:08] Saku Suonpää: now [17.1.2013 4:50:11] Saku Suonpää: this is [17.1.2013 4:50:20] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Do you know what that item supposedly does? [17.1.2013 4:50:21] Saku Suonpää: this is major third degree bullshit [17.1.2013 4:50:34] Saku Suonpää: lets him do his actions during day [17.1.2013 4:50:50] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Yed [17.1.2013 4:50:52] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Yes* [17.1.2013 4:51:01] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: So if it's confirmed to be thay [17.1.2013 4:51:02] Saku Suonpää: I know for he used it on me [17.1.2013 4:51:04] Saku Suonpää: today [17.1.2013 4:51:06] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: That* [17.1.2013 4:51:21] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'm going to Barter the item back in the Day time [17.1.2013 4:51:22] Saku Suonpää: and it was all kinds of good effect [17.1.2013 4:51:30] Saku Suonpää: no [17.1.2013 4:51:35] Saku Suonpää: if you do that [17.1.2013 4:51:41] Saku Suonpää: he cannot use it during the day [17.1.2013 4:52:05] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: There's a penalty to the item [17.1.2013 4:52:08] Saku Suonpää: If there was any use for him not having it [17.1.2013 4:52:12] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: It negates the action for the next Night [17.1.2013 4:52:15] Saku Suonpää: I would have him trade it [17.1.2013 4:52:25] Saku Suonpää: i know what the item does [17.1.2013 4:52:29] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Meaning he does not miss out on any potential items [17.1.2013 4:52:41] Saku Suonpää: yes he does [17.1.2013 4:52:43] Saku Suonpää: think [17.1.2013 4:52:48] Saku Suonpää: if he makes item tomorrow [17.1.2013 4:52:57] Saku Suonpää: its useable night 2 [17.1.2013 4:53:07] Saku Suonpää: if you took the fucking item away [17.1.2013 4:53:16] Saku Suonpää: he cant make anything in time for night 2 [17.1.2013 4:53:21] Saku Suonpää: this is awful idea [17.1.2013 4:53:22] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Hmm [17.1.2013 4:53:28] Saku Suonpää: and now [17.1.2013 4:53:30] Saku Suonpää: tell me [17.1.2013 4:53:32] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'll think about it [17.1.2013 4:53:34] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Btw [17.1.2013 4:53:37] Saku Suonpää: why abhi wanted this [17.1.2013 4:53:54] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Lucina was the one who wanted me to take Eli's item [17.1.2013 4:53:57] Saku Suonpää: because he know just as well as me this is awful idea [17.1.2013 4:54:03] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Speak to Eli about my plan in the morning [17.1.2013 4:54:04] Saku Suonpää: greta lucina [17.1.2013 4:54:05] Saku Suonpää: why? [17.1.2013 4:54:11] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Because there's something else I have planned [17.1.2013 4:54:21] Saku Suonpää: and that is? [17.1.2013 4:54:33] Saku Suonpää: ... [17.1.2013 4:54:42] Saku Suonpää: YOU ARE SO NOT GIVING IT TO LUCINA [17.1.2013 4:54:55] Saku Suonpää: this [17.1.2013 4:54:57] Saku Suonpää: just this is [5:42:00] Saku Suonpää: and he said i wanted him to take the fucking item? [5:42:16] Eli: He also said tell you I lost the item [5:42:28] Eli: While he battered core [5:42:31] Eli: Bartered [5:42:44] Saku Suonpää: ... [5:42:48] Saku Suonpää: this is just [5:42:55] Saku Suonpää: I am voting his ass [5:43:10] Saku Suonpää: He better have good explanation [5:43:16] Eli: FYI I can quote properly when I et home ##WTFisgoing on with you: Mancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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