Void Mafia - Game Over

BBM · January 18, 2013

[1:14:17 PM] Eli: Bbm

[1:14:22 PM] Eli: I'll tell you something

[1:14:32 PM] Eli: And I will expect it to fly around

[1:14:38 PM] Eli: But on one condition

[1:14:55 PM] Eli: You tell me with 100% honesty, if you are mafia or town

[1:16:19 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: okay

[1:16:34 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: i'm town

[1:16:55 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: though i'm pretty sure scum would say the same thing

[1:17:21 PM] Eli: Ok

[1:17:33 PM] Eli: Well

[1:17:43 PM] Eli: I'll tell you that being mafia

[1:17:47 PM] Eli: Doesn't concern me

[1:17:58 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: are you an unknown faction?

[1:18:07 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: non-harmful itp?

[1:18:20 PM] Eli: Well

[1:18:22 PM] Eli: I'm more like

[1:18:27 PM] Eli: Town, with 2nwincons

[1:18:46 PM] Eli: One is the town wincon

[1:18:47 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: i seee

[1:18:52 PM] Eli: The other is one that sas

[1:19:04 PM] Eli: I win I void is eliminated before I die

A log with Elie, with some lines bolded as to why we shouldn't trust him. Notice how here he says only that he wins if the void is eliminated before he dies, not that it's an additional condition required for him to win.

Paulina · January 18, 2013

At the least he was more active than people like Core or Helios or Paulina.

I'm sorry. ._. After Kay died, it seemed like most of the night phase was shooting the shit about her death (coincidentally, generally from those in her wagon). The last four pages sprung up since 10 am. I'm caught up in-thread, but a lot of this has been flying over my head. Considering the Mancer vs. BBM debate, Mancer vs. Sho is even more convoluted.

By the way, I'd like it if someone could clarify why Rein was shot last night. How did the maf know to target him? And Rein was the cult leader, but the cult is still alive, because his first recruit got the Memory ability. But if that person dies, the cult is fully dead...right? I'll try to have more to add about the vote after I reread the thread. Going to make some dinner.

scorri · January 18, 2013

BBM: Care to share a date stamp there? I've been talking to Elie a bit. He claimed something similar to me EN0. Since then, he has changed that and has explained that he was doing that in an attempt to get scum to slip. Honestly, I believe him and don't feel that he's going to betray town even if he could. I trust him and have trusted him since N0 to be honest.

BBM · January 18, 2013

It was at the very end of N0/very beginning of D1. Sho has some kind of similar logs to that as well.

Also, ##Unvote for now because I've realized that since Sho said in the main IRC channel that he wasn't the one who gathered the ingredients together, if the mafia knew that the other two people were Rapier and Rein, they had a 50% chance at getting the stone by killing Rein. I'm still not sure that Sho is town but I don't think Rein's death definitely proves that one of him or Rapier is scum.

scorri · January 18, 2013

There appears to have been some minor miscommunication. Names got switched and it appears that Mancer did not claim Sho told him to steal Elie's item. My fault, I should have made sure before I said anything.

BBM · January 18, 2013

BTW I should clarify. I do NOT want Elie lynched. He's probably town or at worst a non-harmful ITP. He's most definitely not aligned with Void or Werewolves. I just don't trust him enough for him to be town leader. What I'm saying against him right now is just an attempt to stop anyone who hasn't already claimed to him from claiming. He has enough town claims already for him to get along with the mafia.

MancerNecro · January 18, 2013

You're the only one bringing out logs because I'm not home right now, Sho. Would you like to come over to Singapore and enjoy our education system here? It's really fun, I assure you.

That aside, I don't think that log (the actual log and not the fake one) is entirely the same as what I remember. I believe the log is the one from IRC, when you first claimed to me (a log that happened before that). Unless I have a reason problem and misread what you've said since I was multitasking between school/work and mafia when you were talking to me.

MancerNecro · January 18, 2013

[3:34:30] Saku Suonpää: eli

[3:34:48] Saku Suonpää: were you honest about your item missing

[3:35:10] Saku Suonpää: because i am just about to vote Mancer for taking it

[5:37:03] Eli: Ok

[5:37:08] Eli: I'm back from work

[5:38:09] Eli: No I have it, I was awaiting information from elsewhere before I told you I have it will. I asked macer to take cores "item" and apparently he came up empty handed but claimed ordered by u to take my item for whatever reason

[5:38:56] Saku Suonpää: ...

[5:39:01] Saku Suonpää: he said

[5:39:06] Saku Suonpää: i told him

[5:39:10] Saku Suonpää: to take your item

[5:39:15] Saku Suonpää: correct?

[5:39:24] Eli: And apparently Lucy was involved too

[5:39:43] Eli: Ya

[5:39:59] Saku Suonpää: imma dig out a little piece of log ya know

[5:40:12] Saku Suonpää: and then im going to go vote him

[5:40:24] Saku Suonpää: lil pressure so he can tell me

[5:40:25] Saku Suonpää: what

[5:40:27] Saku Suonpää: the fuck

[5:40:59] Eli: Because Lucina wants me to confirm this claim by making me Barter with you (((((Don't tell anyone this)))))

[5:41:04] Eli: Err,Mancer quote

[5:41:24] Eli: I can't quote right on my phone but he said that to me

[5:41:39] Saku Suonpää: [17.1.2013 2:02:51] Saku Suonpää: you there?

[17.1.2013 4:42:14] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Semi here cause of school

[17.1.2013 4:42:25] Saku Suonpää: k

[17.1.2013 4:42:30] Saku Suonpää: target helios

[17.1.2013 4:42:52] Saku Suonpää: he might be the responsible of BBM's tolen item

[17.1.2013 4:43:10] Saku Suonpää: Might as well check if he has it

[17.1.2013 4:44:47] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Alright, but it might have to wait till N2

[17.1.2013 4:44:56] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I promised someone else to help them confirm something N1

[17.1.2013 4:45:07] Saku Suonpää: ...Why?

[17.1.2013 4:45:27] Saku Suonpää: what is it?

[17.1.2013 4:46:23] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: It's related to a scumread of mine and another person's

[17.1.2013 4:46:39] Saku Suonpää: care to tell?

[17.1.2013 4:47:07] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Not at this moment

[17.1.2013 4:47:18] Saku Suonpää: ...great

[17.1.2013 4:47:18] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'll explain more in D2 depending on the result

[17.1.2013 4:47:36] Saku Suonpää: could you at least tell who you are targetting?

[17.1.2013 4:48:26] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I can if you keep it secret

[17.1.2013 4:48:37] Saku Suonpää: sure

[17.1.2013 4:48:46] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Elieson

[17.1.2013 4:48:59] Saku Suonpää: aha

[17.1.2013 4:49:02] Saku Suonpää: Dont

[17.1.2013 4:49:12] Saku Suonpää: he has item

[17.1.2013 4:49:21] Saku Suonpää: and its absolutely vital he keeps it

[17.1.2013 4:49:29] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I know that he has an item

[17.1.2013 4:49:46] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: What hinges on that transaction is whether or not Abhi is telling the truth

[17.1.2013 4:49:48] Saku Suonpää: And I vouch for it being terrible idea to take it away from him

[17.1.2013 4:50:03] Saku Suonpää: ...

[17.1.2013 4:50:07] Saku Suonpää: explain

[17.1.2013 4:50:08] Saku Suonpää: now

[17.1.2013 4:50:11] Saku Suonpää: this is

[17.1.2013 4:50:20] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Do you know what that item supposedly does?

[17.1.2013 4:50:21] Saku Suonpää: this is major third degree bullshit

[17.1.2013 4:50:34] Saku Suonpää: lets him do his actions during day

[17.1.2013 4:50:50] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Yed

[17.1.2013 4:50:52] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Yes*

[17.1.2013 4:51:01] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: So if it's confirmed to be thay

[17.1.2013 4:51:02] Saku Suonpää: I know for he used it on me

[17.1.2013 4:51:04] Saku Suonpää: today

[17.1.2013 4:51:06] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: That*

[17.1.2013 4:51:21] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'm going to Barter the item back in the Day time

[17.1.2013 4:51:22] Saku Suonpää: and it was all kinds of good effect

[17.1.2013 4:51:30] Saku Suonpää: no

[17.1.2013 4:51:35] Saku Suonpää: if you do that

[17.1.2013 4:51:41] Saku Suonpää: he cannot use it during the day

[17.1.2013 4:52:05] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: There's a penalty to the item

[17.1.2013 4:52:08] Saku Suonpää: If there was any use for him not having it

[17.1.2013 4:52:12] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: It negates the action for the next Night

[17.1.2013 4:52:15] Saku Suonpää: I would have him trade it

[17.1.2013 4:52:25] Saku Suonpää: i know what the item does

[17.1.2013 4:52:29] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Meaning he does not miss out on any potential items

[17.1.2013 4:52:41] Saku Suonpää: yes he does

[17.1.2013 4:52:43] Saku Suonpää: think

[17.1.2013 4:52:48] Saku Suonpää: if he makes item tomorrow

[17.1.2013 4:52:57] Saku Suonpää: its useable night 2

[17.1.2013 4:53:07] Saku Suonpää: if you took the fucking item away

[17.1.2013 4:53:16] Saku Suonpää: he cant make anything in time for night 2

[17.1.2013 4:53:21] Saku Suonpää: this is awful idea

[17.1.2013 4:53:22] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Hmm

[17.1.2013 4:53:28] Saku Suonpää: and now

[17.1.2013 4:53:30] Saku Suonpää: tell me

[17.1.2013 4:53:32] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: I'll think about it

[17.1.2013 4:53:34] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Btw

[17.1.2013 4:53:37] Saku Suonpää: why abhi wanted this

[17.1.2013 4:53:54] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Lucina was the one who wanted me to take Eli's item

[17.1.2013 4:53:57] Saku Suonpää: because he know just as well as me this is awful idea

[17.1.2013 4:54:03] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Speak to Eli about my plan in the morning

[17.1.2013 4:54:04] Saku Suonpää: greta lucina

[17.1.2013 4:54:05] Saku Suonpää: why?

[17.1.2013 4:54:11] Ashley Tay Wee Kiat: Because there's something else I have planned

[17.1.2013 4:54:21] Saku Suonpää: and that is?

[17.1.2013 4:54:33] Saku Suonpää: ...

[17.1.2013 4:54:42] Saku Suonpää: YOU ARE SO NOT GIVING IT TO LUCINA

[17.1.2013 4:54:55] Saku Suonpää: this

[17.1.2013 4:54:57] Saku Suonpää: just this is

[5:42:00] Saku Suonpää: and he said i wanted him to take the fucking item?

[5:42:16] Eli: He also said tell you I lost the item

[5:42:28] Eli: While he battered core

[5:42:31] Eli: Bartered

[5:42:44] Saku Suonpää: ...

[5:42:48] Saku Suonpää: this is just

[5:42:55] Saku Suonpää: I am voting his ass

[5:43:10] Saku Suonpää: He better have good explanation

[5:43:16] Eli: FYI I can quote properly when I et home

##WTFisgoing on with you: Mancer

Lol what.

Simple explanation, scorri got mixed up with names, and I already clarified with Eli and scorri (most likely after that log happened).

By the way, you are such an idiot! When I said make things secret, you go around and tell everyone everything? So now that you've made that public, my N1 gambit has failed.

MancerNecro · January 18, 2013

People, you do need to be more tight-lipped with everything, especially when the Cult exists and still have not been routed yet. You might think that you can trust a person, but if he gets Culted, you're just feeding information to Cult for free.

Also, all those Uncultable claims are stupid. You're making yourself a target for scum as well as narrowing down the list if people that Cult can Cult.

a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes · January 18, 2013

Oh when it is said around that I suggested stealing Elie's item, when I spend like 10 minutes telling you its awful awful AWFUL idea, I will post a damn log. I do not go around trying make people not do stupid things only for it to be said I am mastermind of them.

Your gambit is pointless as far as I know. If you do not tell me anything worth hiding, guess how much of it stays hidden.

As for the lovely logs...

This log?

[16:30:54] Saku Suonpää: Yes mancer I am uncultable

[16:31:03] Saku Suonpää: its because I am a werewolf

[16:31:13] Saku Suonpää: shit did I just type that out loud?

[16:31:21] Saku Suonpää: oh ummm

[16:31:21] Totesmancer: lol

[16:31:27] Saku Suonpää: Mancer

[16:31:34] Saku Suonpää: look at the shiny keys

[16:31:38] Saku Suonpää: shiny shiny

[16:31:54] Saku Suonpää: oh you forgot what we were chatting about?

[16:32:02] Saku Suonpää: its coool it wasnt important

[16:32:13] Saku Suonpää: dont like read what i typed

[16:32:25] Saku Suonpää: ugh you are going to...

[16:32:30] Saku Suonpää: ummm BOOBIES

[16:33:32] Saku Suonpää: http://i.imgur.com/x4Flo.jpg

[16:33:37] Saku Suonpää: see

[16:33:40] Saku Suonpää: see that mancer

[16:33:42] Saku Suonpää: boobies

[16:33:48] Saku Suonpää: do not read the log

[16:33:52] Saku Suonpää: think boobies

[16:33:59] Totesmancer: wtf

[16:34:05] Totesmancer: melon!boobs

[16:34:18] Saku Suonpää: I couldnt post actual boobies if i post the log :/

Ok seriously, this?

[09:43] <ShoMtheTits> You are in the Void mafia [09:43] <ShoMtheTits> right? [09:44] <MancerNecro> yeah [09:45] <ShoMtheTits> well i suppose we should take advantage of this OC thing now shouldnt we [09:45] <MancerNecro> yeah [09:45] <ShoMtheTits> so [09:46] <ShoMtheTits> anything you feel like sharing with me [09:49] <ShoMtheTits> Is that a no? [09:50] <MancerNecro> no, it's not [09:50] <MancerNecro> I'm doing homework irl [09:50] <ShoMtheTits> ah, I see [09:50] <ShoMtheTits> fancy few minutes of your time? [09:50] <MancerNecro> yeah, I don't mind [09:51] <ShoMtheTits> so [09:51] <ShoMtheTits> anything you feel like sharing with me? [09:52] <MancerNecro> Well [09:52] <MancerNecro> I'd like to ask if you have any items [09:52] <ShoMtheTits> do you? [09:53] <MancerNecro> nope [09:53] <ShoMtheTits> shame [09:53] <MancerNecro> why so? [09:53] <ShoMtheTits> its always better to have one [09:53] <ShoMtheTits> isnt it? [09:54] <MancerNecro> what does that mean? [09:54] <ShoMtheTits> So why are you interested in items [09:55] <ShoMtheTits> oh and that question [09:55] <MancerNecro> Because I do not want to accidentally take an item that someone plans to use and ruin it [09:55] <ShoMtheTits> oh [09:55] <ShoMtheTits> you have an item based role? [09:55] <MancerNecro> yes, I do [09:55] <ShoMtheTits> care to tell mor ein detail [09:56] <MancerNecro> I'm an item trader [09:56] <ShoMtheTits> if you do i just might tell you of this item I have [09:56] ->> MancerNecro is Mibbit@hnnhz-241-276-1-797.singnet.com.sg (http://www.mibbit.com) [09:56] ->> MancerNecro is on: #SForestMafia [09:56] ->> MancerNecro using nebula.uk.eu.darkmyst.org (linode - www.linode.com) [09:56] ->> MancerNecro :End of /WHOIS list. [09:56] <MancerNecro> I swap me and my targets' items [09:56] <ShoMtheTits> I see [09:56] <MancerNecro> if either of us has none, we pass nothing over and it might become a one way trade [09:56] <ShoMtheTits> Well [09:56] <ShoMtheTits> I would like to make a deal with you [09:57] <MancerNecro> let me hear the deal first [09:57] <ShoMtheTits> let me first ask a simple question [09:57] <ShoMtheTits> what do you know of alchemy? [09:58] <MancerNecro> Alchemy, as in related to this game's source? [09:58] <MancerNecro> or just general alchemy? [09:58] <ShoMtheTits> the former one [09:58] <MancerNecro> I'm not sure, cause I don't know the source at all [09:58] <ShoMtheTits> ic [09:58] <ShoMtheTits> well [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> this deal [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> must stay secret [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> ok? [09:59] <MancerNecro> alright [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> I would ask you to let me choose your targets [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> and let you keep whatever items you find [09:59] <ShoMtheTits> unless [10:00] <MancerNecro> alright [10:00] <ShoMtheTits> good [10:00] <MancerNecro> What does your item do? [10:00] <MancerNecro> or is it your role that is related to Alchemy? [10:01] <ShoMtheTits> its aa alchemic material [10:01] <ShoMtheTits> *an [10:01] <MancerNecro> uh huh? [10:01] <ShoMtheTits> and for reasons you might find out if i trust you enough [10:01] <ShoMtheTits> I want more of them [10:02] <ShoMtheTits> and you have the role to make that happen [10:02] <ShoMtheTits> worry not [10:02] <ShoMtheTits> should you run accross one such material [10:02] <ShoMtheTits> you will know exactly what I plan to do with them [10:02] <ShoMtheTits> and if you come and take my material [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> well [10:03] <MancerNecro> but I can't exactly pass any items to you without taking yours away though [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> consider yourself something i will get a lynch on [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> you can trade them to me [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11. There are items in this game. Some items have passive effects and others are active. Actives items will have their commands in their description. [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11a. Items can be passed at night along with other night actions, which is done with the command "Night X - Pass ITEM to USER." Passing items has the lowest priority in the game. [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11b. If a player is killed, the killer will get the item. If they are lynched, a random member of their wagon gets it. [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11c. You cannot use an item and pass it on the same night. [10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11d. If you have multiple active items for some reason, you can only use one of them. [10:04] <ShoMtheTits> these are copied from paperblade's rules [10:04] <MancerNecro> oh I forgot that [10:04] <ShoMtheTits> find me the materials [10:04] <MancerNecro> well [10:04] <ShoMtheTits> and town has potent help under its wings [10:04] <MancerNecro> I can say this: I will not target some players with my ability [10:04] <MancerNecro> They might be town players who are having plans to use their items [10:05] <ShoMtheTits> would BBM be one such individual? [10:05] <MancerNecro> If you want me to target someone, tell me who they are, and I'll say whether or not I'm willing to target them [10:05] <MancerNecro> Yes [10:05] <ShoMtheTits> shame [10:05] <MancerNecro> How so? [10:05] <ShoMtheTits> I am rather sure he has an alchemic material [10:06] <ShoMtheTits> if only i could be sure he is on our side [10:06] <ShoMtheTits> i could negotiate about it myself [10:06] <MancerNecro> Also, I do know that some players have told me that they don't have items [10:06] <MancerNecro> I shall go speak to BBM then [10:07] <ShoMtheTits> nah [10:07] <ShoMtheTits> i will talk him personally [10:07] <ShoMtheTits> but sure talk all you want [10:07] <ShoMtheTits> just remeber we promised a secret [10:08] <MancerNecro> alright [10:27] <MancerNecro> Sho [10:27] <ShoMtheTits> yes? [10:27] <MancerNecro> I have a list of players who claimed they have no items [10:27] <MancerNecro> Do you want to look at it? [10:28] <ShoMtheTits> naturally [10:28] <MancerNecro> Bluedoom, Lucina, Xinnidy, Paulina and Shinori has no items [10:29] <ShoMtheTits> ic [10:34] <MancerNecro> Who do you think I should target? [10:35] <ShoMtheTits> i am trying to do my best to hunt on leads [11:17] <ShoMtheTits> hello [13:07] <MancerNecro> hi [13:07] <MancerNecro> sorry, I was away for a while [16:27] * MancerNecro (Mibbit@hnnhz-241-276-1-797.singnet.com.sg) Quit ( Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client )

WHat does that have to do with being uncultable?

That aside, I don't think that log (the actual log and not the fake one) is entirely the same as what I remember. I believe the log is the one from IRC, when you first claimed to me (a log that happened before that). Unless I have a reason problem and misread what you've said since I was multitasking between school/work and mafia when you were talking to me.

You lovely folks see our entire uncutted irc convo. I post it and nothing relevant because well THERE IS NO BLOODY RELEVANT LOG!!!

a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes · January 18, 2013

wtf happened to that log XD

[09:43] <ShoMtheTits> You are in the Void mafia

[09:43] <ShoMtheTits> right?

[09:44] <MancerNecro> yeah

[09:45] <ShoMtheTits> well i suppose we should take advantage of this OC thing now shouldnt we

[09:45] <MancerNecro> yeah

[09:45] <ShoMtheTits> so

[09:46] <ShoMtheTits> anything you feel like sharing with me

[09:49] <ShoMtheTits> Is that a no?

[09:50] <MancerNecro> no, it's not

[09:50] <MancerNecro> I'm doing homework irl

[09:50] <ShoMtheTits> ah, I see

[09:50] <ShoMtheTits> fancy few minutes of your time?

[09:50] <MancerNecro> yeah, I don't mind

[09:51] <ShoMtheTits> so

[09:51] <ShoMtheTits> anything you feel like sharing with me?

[09:52] <MancerNecro> Well

[09:52] <MancerNecro> I'd like to ask if you have any items

[09:52] <ShoMtheTits> do you?

[09:53] <MancerNecro> nope

[09:53] <ShoMtheTits> shame

[09:53] <MancerNecro> why so?

[09:53] <ShoMtheTits> its always better to have one

[09:53] <ShoMtheTits> isnt it?

[09:54] <MancerNecro> what does that mean?

[09:54] <ShoMtheTits> So why are you interested in items

[09:55] <ShoMtheTits> oh and that question

[09:55] <MancerNecro> Because I do not want to accidentally take an item that someone plans to use and ruin it

[09:55] <ShoMtheTits> oh

[09:55] <ShoMtheTits> you have an item based role?

[09:55] <MancerNecro> yes, I do

[09:55] <ShoMtheTits> care to tell mor ein detail

[09:56] <MancerNecro> I'm an item trader

[09:56] <ShoMtheTits> if you do i just might tell you of this item I have

[09:56] ->> MancerNecro is Mibbit@hnnhz-241-276-1-797.singnet.com.sg (http://www.mibbit.com)

[09:56] ->> MancerNecro is on: #SForestMafia

[09:56] ->> MancerNecro using nebula.uk.eu.darkmyst.org (linode - www.linode.com)

[09:56] ->> MancerNecro :End of /WHOIS list.

[09:56] <MancerNecro> I swap me and my targets' items

[09:56] <ShoMtheTits> I see

[09:56] <MancerNecro> if either of us has none, we pass nothing over and it might become a one way trade

[09:56] <ShoMtheTits> Well

[09:56] <ShoMtheTits> I would like to make a deal with you

[09:57] <MancerNecro> let me hear the deal first

[09:57] <ShoMtheTits> let me first ask a simple question

[09:57] <ShoMtheTits> what do you know of alchemy?

[09:58] <MancerNecro> Alchemy, as in related to this game's source?

[09:58] <MancerNecro> or just general alchemy?

[09:58] <ShoMtheTits> the former one

[09:58] <MancerNecro> I'm not sure, cause I don't know the source at all

[09:58] <ShoMtheTits> ic

[09:58] <ShoMtheTits> well

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> this deal

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> must stay secret

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> ok?

[09:59] <MancerNecro> alright

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> I would ask you to let me choose your targets

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> and let you keep whatever items you find

[09:59] <ShoMtheTits> unless

[10:00] <MancerNecro> alright

[10:00] <ShoMtheTits> good

[10:00] <MancerNecro> What does your item do?

[10:00] <MancerNecro> or is it your role that is related to Alchemy?

[10:01] <ShoMtheTits> its aa alchemic material

[10:01] <ShoMtheTits> *an

[10:01] <MancerNecro> uh huh?

[10:01] <ShoMtheTits> and for reasons you might find out if i trust you enough

[10:01] <ShoMtheTits> I want more of them

[10:02] <ShoMtheTits> and you have the role to make that happen

[10:02] <ShoMtheTits> worry not

[10:02] <ShoMtheTits> should you run accross one such material

[10:02] <ShoMtheTits> you will know exactly what I plan to do with them

[10:02] <ShoMtheTits> and if you come and take my material

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> well

[10:03] <MancerNecro> but I can't exactly pass any items to you without taking yours away though

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> consider yourself something i will get a lynch on

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> you can trade them to me

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11. There are items in this game. Some items have passive effects and others are active. Actives items will have their commands in their description.

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11a. Items can be passed at night along with other night actions, which is done with the command "Night X - Pass ITEM to USER." Passing items has the lowest priority in the game.

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11b. If a player is killed, the killer will get the item. If they are lynched, a random member of their wagon gets it.

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11c. You cannot use an item and pass it on the same night.

[10:03] <ShoMtheTits> 11d. If you have multiple active items for some reason, you can only use one of them.

[10:04] <ShoMtheTits> these are copied from paperblade's rules

[10:04] <MancerNecro> oh I forgot that

[10:04] <ShoMtheTits> find me the materials

[10:04] <MancerNecro> well

[10:04] <ShoMtheTits> and town has potent help under its wings

[10:04] <MancerNecro> I can say this: I will not target some players with my ability

[10:04] <MancerNecro> They might be town players who are having plans to use their items

[10:05] <ShoMtheTits> would BBM be one such individual?

[10:05] <MancerNecro> If you want me to target someone, tell me who they are, and I'll say whether or not I'm willing to target them

[10:05] <MancerNecro> Yes

[10:05] <ShoMtheTits> shame

[10:05] <MancerNecro> How so?

[10:05] <ShoMtheTits> I am rather sure he has an alchemic material

[10:06] <ShoMtheTits> if only i could be sure he is on our side

[10:06] <ShoMtheTits> i could negotiate about it myself

[10:06] <MancerNecro> Also, I do know that some players have told me that they don't have items

[10:06] <MancerNecro> I shall go speak to BBM then

[10:07] <ShoMtheTits> nah

[10:07] <ShoMtheTits> i will talk him personally

[10:07] <ShoMtheTits> but sure talk all you want

[10:07] <ShoMtheTits> just remeber we promised a secret

[10:08] <MancerNecro> alright

[10:27] <MancerNecro> Sho

[10:27] <ShoMtheTits> yes?

[10:27] <MancerNecro> I have a list of players who claimed they have no items

[10:27] <MancerNecro> Do you want to look at it?

[10:28] <ShoMtheTits> naturally

[10:28] <MancerNecro> Bluedoom, Lucina, Xinnidy, Paulina and Shinori has no items

[10:29] <ShoMtheTits> ic

[10:34] <MancerNecro> Who do you think I should target?

[10:35] <ShoMtheTits> i am trying to do my best to hunt on leads

[11:17] <ShoMtheTits> hello

[13:07] <MancerNecro> hi

[13:07] <MancerNecro> sorry, I was away for a while

[16:27] * MancerNecro (Mibbit@hnnhz-241-276-1-797.singnet.com.sg) Quit ( Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client )

Rapier · January 18, 2013

[1:14:17 PM] Eli: Bbm

[1:14:22 PM] Eli: I'll tell you something

[1:14:32 PM] Eli: And I will expect it to fly around

[1:14:38 PM] Eli: But on one condition

[1:14:55 PM] Eli: You tell me with 100% honesty, if you are mafia or town

[1:16:19 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: okay

[1:16:34 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: i'm town

[1:16:55 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: though i'm pretty sure scum would say the same thing

[1:17:21 PM] Eli: Ok

[1:17:33 PM] Eli: Well

[1:17:43 PM] Eli: I'll tell you that being mafia

[1:17:47 PM] Eli: Doesn't concern me

[1:17:58 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: are you an unknown faction?

[1:18:07 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: non-harmful itp?

[1:18:20 PM] Eli: Well

[1:18:22 PM] Eli: I'm more like

[1:18:27 PM] Eli: Town, with 2nwincons

[1:18:46 PM] Eli: One is the town wincon

[1:18:47 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: i seee

[1:18:52 PM] Eli: The other is one that sas

[1:19:04 PM] Eli: I win I void is eliminated before I die

A log with Elie, with some lines bolded as to why we shouldn't trust him. Notice how here he says only that he wins if the void is eliminated before he dies, not that it's an additional condition required for him to win.

Elie's claim seems consistent. He claimed Magus before we could even figure out there was one in the game... And Rein's death just proved us there is one. He could've just claimed Uncultable, but his Magus claim does not contradict the info we got now. I admit there are other ways to know if there is a Magus in the game before it even starts, but all we know is only the Cult knew that, and he couldn't be the mastermind.

Now now, Baldrick, are you saying I'm possibly a Mafia Vanilla? Sho and I roleclaimed at the same time, we both said we were vanillas, hence why we believed Rein's claim, too much of a coincidence. While I have no evidence to prove myself otherwise, I want to make this clear that we roleclaimed to each other (and other people, such as Xinny and Elie, knew I was one too).

a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes · January 18, 2013

BBM is not claiming Elie is not a magus. He Claim that because he wins by defeating the cult, he has no reason not to tell every single bit of info he can get out of town to the werewolves in exchange of cult kills.

BBM · January 18, 2013

BBM is not claiming Elie is not a magus. He Claim that because he wins by defeating the cult, he has no reason not to tell every single bit of info he can get out of town to the werewolves in exchange of cult kills.

This, basically. Also consider that if Elieson is uncultable, he can only die via lynch or kill. He's obviously not getting lynched, meaning the only way he can really die is via mafia nightkill. That's an extra incentive for him to buddy up with them.

Anyways, I've said as much about Elie as there is a point to saying, and tbh he probably has claims from most of the game anyways, so I doubt it'll make too much of a difference at this point.

Also, I think we should start narrowing down some of these vanilla claims. To my knowledge, almost half the game has claimed Vanilla, which doesn't sit very well with me.

##Vote: Cam

Even though he's been saying for a whole cycle now that he thinks someone on Mancer's wagon is scummy, he's barely followed up on it at all. He commented on the Kay lynch similarly, saying that it was a stupid wagon, but he hasn't actually made any attempt whatsoever to narrow down who might be scum on it. As I said D1, a lot of his contribution is extremely half-hearted and I haven't still seen a single definitive scumread from him.

scorri · January 18, 2013

##Vote:Mancer

Said I'd give you time to produce logs with your side of the story. You continue not to even though you've been home. Kinda reminds me of the last OC game where you were asked for logs.

a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes · January 18, 2013

By demand

[13.1.2013 0:15:44] Lorddomu: oh

[13.1.2013 0:15:48] Lorddomu: well, anyway

[13.1.2013 0:15:58] Lorddomu: I know you have an item

[13.1.2013 0:16:06] Lorddomu: do you know anyone else who's got an item?

[13.1.2013 0:16:20] Saku Suonpää: plenty

[13.1.2013 0:16:29] Lorddomu: also, just what is your item?

[13.1.2013 0:16:29] Saku Suonpää: is it a crossbow?

[13.1.2013 0:16:36] Lorddomu: uh, nope

[13.1.2013 0:16:51] Saku Suonpää: WHat do you know of alchemy?

[13.1.2013 0:18:08] Lorddomu: I know it involves potions

[13.1.2013 0:18:13] Lorddomu: is your item related to alchemy?

[13.1.2013 0:18:27] Saku Suonpää: Is your item releated to alchemy?

[13.1.2013 0:18:38] Lorddomu: it seems our items are related to alchemy

[13.1.2013 0:18:52] Lorddomu: though I'm not sure how many ingredients are out there.

[13.1.2013 0:19:07] Saku Suonpää: can I see your item description?

[13.1.2013 0:20:09] Lorddomu: it's agaisnt the rules to quote an item

[13.1.2013 0:20:14] Saku Suonpää: is not

[13.1.2013 0:20:26] Saku Suonpää: roles you cannot quote

[13.1.2013 0:20:32] Saku Suonpää: items are free game

[13.1.2013 0:20:34] Lorddomu: 3.1 The only exceptions to this rule are item descriptions and win conditions.

[13.1.2013 0:20:34] Lorddomu: oh wait

[13.1.2013 0:20:35] Lorddomu: right.

[13.1.2013 0:21:03] Lorddomu: You are holding the Sulphur, an alchemical component. It grants flammability and combustion.

[13.1.2013 0:21:06] Lorddomu: and yours are?

[13.1.2013 0:21:19] Saku Suonpää: You are holding the Salt. An alchemical component. It causes solidity. At night, the holder of Salt may respond to their CUT

[13.1.2013 0:21:29] Lorddomu: ... CUT?

[13.1.2013 0:21:32] Lorddomu: oh

[13.1.2013 0:21:33] Lorddomu: LOL

[13.1.2013 0:21:36] Lorddomu: *facepalm*

[13.1.2013 0:21:52] Lorddomu: I figure every holder has something different to make with all the ingredients.

[13.1.2013 0:22:02] Saku Suonpää: what do you make with them?

[13.1.2013 0:22:17] Lorddomu: philosopher's stone

[13.1.2013 0:22:20] Lorddomu: and you?

[13.1.2013 0:22:25] Saku Suonpää: You are holding the Salt. An alchemical component. It causes solidity. At night, the holder of Salt may respond to their role PM with "Night X - The Great Work!" If you have all the other components, you will create a philsopher's stone, although you're not sure what that does...

[13.1.2013 0:22:39] Lorddomu: At night, the holder of Sulphur may respond to their role PM with "Night X - The Great Work!" If you have all the other components, you will create a philsopher's stone, although you're not sure what that does...

[13.1.2013 0:22:49] Saku Suonpää: so

[13.1.2013 0:22:56] Saku Suonpää: wanna join forces?

[13.1.2013 0:23:27] Lorddomu: it would be nice

[13.1.2013 0:23:30] Lorddomu: though I don't trust you

[13.1.2013 0:23:38] Lorddomu: I have no guarantee that you're not from the scumteam

[13.1.2013 0:23:43] Lorddomu: or Cult

[13.1.2013 0:23:48] Saku Suonpää: You are a vanilla arent you

[13.1.2013 0:23:58] Lorddomu: I am

[13.1.2013 0:24:03] Saku Suonpää: and so am I

[13.1.2013 0:24:16] Lorddomu: well then

[13.1.2013 0:24:29] Saku Suonpää: I would assume there is third vanilla with third component

MancerNecro · January 18, 2013

##Vote:Mancer

Said I'd give you time to produce logs with your side of the story. You continue not to even though you've been home. Kinda reminds me of the last OC game where you were asked for logs.

I'm just procrastinating and doing homework over reading through that ton of logs I have.

Ema Skye · January 18, 2013

##Vote: Mancer

Stop procrastinating on those logs. If they really mattered to you, you would've posted them by now. Post some logs and I'll consider unvoting you.

Elieson · January 18, 2013

Narrowing down provable roles and townlke players is harder than it looks.

I've got a plethora of claims that are just plain....unhelpful.

I'd like actual input from both Cam and Core, and have no problem voting for

##vote CT075

Minor contributions plus my knowledge of the playerslot aren't overly reassuring.

MancerNecro · January 18, 2013

I shall go read through my logs in a while.

MancerNecro · January 19, 2013

You're the only one bringing out logs because I'm not home right now, Sho. Would you like to come over to Singapore and enjoy our education system here? It's really fun, I assure you.

That aside, I don't think that log (the actual log and not the fake one) is entirely the same as what I remember. I believe the log is the one from IRC, when you first claimed to me (a log that happened before that). Unless I have a reading problem and misread what you've said since I was multitasking between school/work and mafia when you were talking to me.

I just reread the logs and it turns out I misread the conversation.

I took "They wouldn't Cult me N0" as Uncultable for some reason.

##Unvote: Sho.M.the.Tits

MancerNecro · January 19, 2013

I just reread the logs and it turns out I misread the conversation.

I took "They wouldn't Cult me N0" as Uncultable for some reason.

##Unvote: Sho.M.the.Tits

[spoiler=Logs to that effect:]MancerNecro: Btw Sho, have you been Culted yet?

Sho.M.the.Tits: it does not change the fact you could have

MancerNecro: Just checking since you made it so obvious that your role is one super hyped up important role for town N0

Sho.M.the.Tits: I was culted day negative 5

MancerNecro: And BBM might have revealed your role to a cult

Sho.M.the.Tits: But seriosuly no

Sho.M.the.Tits: they wouldnt cult me night 0

MancerNecro: I heard from Bluedoom you make a Philosopher's Stone?

Sho.M.the.Tits: not after I specifically asked for

MancerNecro: Why not?

MancerNecro: Ooh

Sho.M.the.Tits: safeguard and or watcher

MancerNecro: Hmm

Sho.M.the.Tits: besides its way too obvious anyway

MancerNecro: True

Sho.M.the.Tits: hey that one guy who makes himself target

Sho.M.the.Tits:lets target him

Sho.M.the.Tits: what are the odds of that fucking up?

Sho.M.the.Tits: and yeah

Sho.M.the.Tits: we are making philosopher's stone

The part that I was talking about is bolded.

Shinori · January 19, 2013

##Unvote:

I fucking hate you BBM.

##Vote: Bluedoom

Shinori · January 19, 2013

Also fine with a sho lynch. Preferably sho over mancer at the moment I think.

MancerNecro · January 19, 2013

Also fine with a sho lynch. Preferably sho over mancer at the moment I think.

Any justifications for that?

Void Mafia - Game Over

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