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[Espinosa]

I was wondering, can we implement Afa's Drop on FE7's averages?

Let's not...

[Quintessence]

Yeah, Lv. 1 units benefit the most of it, I don't see an issue on adding it.

Edit: :(

Edited August 23, 2015 by Quintessence

[Espinosa]

If you want to re-calculate all the averages with the item taken into account for every character with their individual base level and have a separate sheet for it... But I'm a bit aversa to having a separate Afa's Drop sheet for everyone anyway tbqh.

[Darrman]

^Pun alert? But I'm a bit aversa to having a separate sheet... (SF hates quoting and pasting in normal posts. I usually blame IE.)

[Elieson]

Dude Microsoft doesn't even support IE anymore. Move on man

[Espinosa]

I still got offered some IE updates when I opened the browser before deleting it from my PC last week (because programs would automatically open stuff with it and not Firefox).

[AnonymousSpeed]

We could put a spoiler in the spoiler containing the normal stats containing the afa's drop stats, but I can see us not having them, considering we don't have Knight Ward/bands in FE9.

Also, while in FE13 aptitude would be useless, how about Underdog? Do people see an issue with that? Due to Donnel's modifiers I doubt it will see much use anyway, but there's no harm in allowing it.

[Espinosa]

It doesn't have a reason to be allowed on non-Dread Fighter!Donnel, since everyone is assumed to be the same level otherwise.

In the 2nd gen, RobinF marrying Donnel can produce two kids with absurd hit/avo due to comboing, say, Lucky 7/Quick Burn/Underdog with skills like Demoiselle. Seems pretty potent.

[AnonymousSpeed]

That's investing a lot in hit/avoid though, in exchange for one or more points of speed.

[Quintessence]

I'm doing a table for Afa's Drop, just fyi guys. I'll also do the averages table again because I've spotted a couple of typos in stuff like Rebecca's HP, Marcus's HP, Dorcas's Lck. So just wait till I provide both of them.

[AnonymousSpeed]

Aye aye, Captain Quint.

[Quintessence]

bidoof

Edited August 23, 2015 by Quintessence

[Elieson]

Quint

What mistakes did you find from the original data? I used the Stats for FE6/7/8 straight from Espi's main thread to populate the raw stats in my sheets

[Quintessence]

Uh so far Dorcas's Lck, haven't gotten into detail tho

[Quintessence]

Marcus on my calcs have +1 str, skl, sp, lck and either def or res. Maybe because I used the Round function on Excel and every .5+ was rounded up.

Edit: i think I'm wrong on Marcus's stats

Edited August 23, 2015 by Quintessence

[Elieson]

If everything's rounded down, might want to use =TRUNC(__) instead of =ROUND(__) or =ROUNDDOWN(__)

Espi, wanna confirm this?

[Quintessence]

I use Round=(formula, 0) and it rounds down if less than 0.5 and rounds up when equal to or higher than 0.5

I use Int() when hit/avo/crit calcs tho

[Espinosa]

The stats you mentioned are all fine. I used the SF on-site averages data for it, rounding up every 0.50.

[Quintessence]

You're right, I'll have to check any typo I made and will see if there are any mistakes in the afa stats

[Quintessence]

[spoiler=Averages]

Name		HP	S/M	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Acc	Avo	Crt	Rating

Eliwood		52	24	24	23	24	17	16	60	70	12	128
Lowen		58	19	17	19	22	24	12	45	60	8	113
Marcus		43	21	25	16	14	13	15	57	46	12	104
Rebecca		44	22	25	29	23	11	14	61	81	12	124
Dorcas		60	30	23	13	19	15	8	55	45	11	108
Bartre		60	29	20	18	15	18	12	47	51	10	112
Hector		56	30	23	21	14	28	15	53	56	11	131
Oswin		59	27	20	17	14	30	15	47	48	10	123
Serra		39	22	18	24	29	10	28	50	77	9	131
Matthew		49	16	19	30	21	14	9	48	81	9	109
Guy		57	21	29	30	21	13	11	68	81	29	125
Erk		46	21	21	26	14	13	22	49	66	10	117
Priscilla	35	22	24	22	30	10	27	63	74	12	135
Lyn		46	21	29	30	26	13	16	71	86	14	135
Wil		51	25	26	22	21	14	12	62	65	13	120
Kent		54	22	26	24	10	17	12	57	58	13	111
Sain		51	25	18	22	17	16	9	44	61	9	107
Florina		45	22	25	28	26	12	19	63	82	12	132
Raven		60	25	29	26	14	17	9	65	66	14	120
Lucius		41	25	25	24	9	8	30	54	57	12	121
Canas		47	24	21	22	15	15	24	49	59	10	121
Dart		60	30	15	28	14	14	8	37	70	22	109
Fiora		48	21	25	28	16	14	25	58	72	12	129
Legault		48	16	25	30	26	17	13	63	86	12	127
Isadora		42	19	19	25	19	12	11	47	69	9	105
Heath		60	27	25	23	13	21	10	56	59	12	119
Rath		54	25	23	27	15	13	13	53	69	11	116
Hawkeye		58	24	19	15	19	17	16	47	49	24	110
Geitz		58	28	18	21	17	15	7	44	59	9	106
Wallace		53	27	20	13	18	26	14	49	44	10	118
Farina		49	23	24	26	22	19	22	59	74	12	136
Pent		40	22	24	23	20	15	21	58	66	12	125
Louise		38	18	20	23	21	12	17	50	67	10	111
Karel		39	20	29	26	19	14	14	67	71	29	122
Harken		52	25	26	23	14	20	14	59	60	13	122
Nino		41	25	28	26	25	12	25	68	77	14	141
Jaffar		39	20	28	26	11	17	13	61	63	14	115
Vaida		54	25	24	18	14	25	9	55	50	12	115
Karla		38	18	28	26	22	13	15	67	74	29	122
Renault		45	14	23	21	11	16	20	51	53	11	105

[spoiler=Afa]

Name		HP	S/M	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Acc	Avo	Crt	Rating

Eliwood		54	26	26	24	26	19	18	65	74	13	139
Lowen		60	21	19	21	23	25	14	49	65	9	123
Marcus		44	22	25	17	15	14	16	57	49	12	109
Rebecca		46	24	27	29	25	13	16	66	83	13	134
Dorcas		60	30	25	15	21	17	10	60	51	12	118
Bartre		60	30	22	20	17	20	14	52	57	11	123
Hector		58	30	24	23	16	29	16	56	62	12	138
Oswin		60	29	22	19	15	30	17	51	53	11	132
Serra		41	24	20	26	30	12	30	55	82	10	142
Matthew		51	18	21	30	22	16	11	53	82	10	118
Guy		59	23	29	30	23	15	13	69	83	29	133
Erk		48	23	23	26	16	15	24	54	68	11	127
Priscilla	37	24	24	24	30	12	28	63	78	12	142
Lyn		48	23	29	30	28	15	18	72	88	14	143
Wil		53	25	27	24	23	16	14	65	71	13	129
Kent		56	24	26	24	12	18	13	58	60	13	117
Sain		53	25	20	24	19	18	11	49	67	10	117
Florina		47	23	25	28	28	14	21	64	84	12	139
Raven		60	25	30	26	16	18	11	68	68	15	126
Lucius		43	25	26	24	11	9	30	57	59	13	125
Canas		48	26	23	23	16	16	26	54	62	11	130
Dart		60	30	17	28	15	16	9	41	71	23	115
Fiora		50	23	25	28	17	16	26	58	73	12	135
Legault		50	17	27	30	28	18	14	68	88	13	134
Isadora		43	20	20	25	20	13	12	50	70	10	110
Heath		60	27	25	23	15	22	12	57	61	12	124
Rath		55	25	24	29	16	15	15	56	74	12	124
Hawkeye		59	25	20	16	20	18	16	50	52	25	115
Geitz		59	28	19	22	18	16	8	47	62	9	111
Wallace		54	29	21	15	19	28	16	51	49	10	128
Farina		51	23	25	28	24	20	23	62	80	12	143
Pent		41	23	25	23	20	16	22	60	66	12	129
Louise		38	19	21	24	22	13	18	53	70	10	117
Karel		40	20	29	27	19	15	14	67	73	29	124
Harken		52	25	26	23	15	20	15	59	61	13	124
Nino		42	27	28	26	27	14	25	69	79	14	147
Jaffar		39	20	28	27	12	17	13	62	66	14	117
Vaida		54	25	24	19	15	25	9	55	53	12	117
Karla		39	19	29	27	23	13	16	69	77	29	127
Renault		46	14	23	22	11	16	20	51	55	11	106

Fixed, stats are now updated.

Errors on my calcs where:

Marcus had promotion bonuses

Lyn mode chars had HHM bases

But there's still a mistake on Dorcas's Lck. Growth rate pages say he has 45% Lck growth (leading to 19 on average) while the Averages page show he has 40% Lck growth (leading to 17 on average). This is a mistake of the site itself.

[General Horace]

anyone up for an FE7 game? I have an amazing team I wanna try.

[Elieson]

@Quint,

Confirming that SF (and Espinosa) should re-list Dorcas' Luck from 17 to 19, and nothing else?

[Quintessence]

@Quint,

Confirming that SF (and Espinosa) should re-list Dorcas' Luck from 17 to 19, and nothing else?

Idk exactly who should make the corrections. Growths say one thing but averages say something else.

Edit: and yeah, as far as I know, nothing else. Dunno if it's 40 or 45?

Edited August 24, 2015 by Quintessence

[General Horace]

It's 45%. Just checked with nightmare.

[Espinosa]

Updated Dorcas's luck/hit/avo and also added Athos's stats into averages and maxes sheets. Athos still needs his portraits though.

Can anyone leave a list of units/portraits the database is still missing? Some Manaketes (which ones) and Yodel; is that it?

Edited August 24, 2015 by Espinosa