Roflolxp54 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Kaiyumi said: I'm...genuinely curious how many teams I run into in the arena are hacked now. While having a full team of +10 focus characters seemed very unlikely (albeit possible if you spent thousands, I suppose) to begin with... These teams with +10 Sharena are making me go what. Unless I'm blatantly missing something, there really shouldn't be any way to raise the starting trio to any +level right now, yeah? It's likely a hacked team. Right now, it's impossible to get dupes of Alfonse, Anna, or Sharena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 27-02-2017 at 2:30 PM, Anacybele said: Ah, okay. Now that I think about it, could they actually be hinting at Zelgius, not Micaiah? Because it does mention that all these females have older brothers, not sisters. And as I pointed out before, Micaiah and Sanaki have no sibling bond. And Zelgius/Black Knight would probably make more sense as a Grand Hero battle rather than a focus summoning. It's not too farfetched to think Zelgius could be seen as an older brother figure to Sanaki. It's still kind of a farfetched theory though, and it would troll Micaiah fans, so... I don't think it's likely. I would definitely rather have Zelgius than her though. A bit late to reply to this, but I want to point out that one of Sanaki's castle quotes is that she mentions she has an older sister whom she didn't know for years, but she became very precious to her. So at the very least, IntSys does acknowledge there's a bond between Sanaki and Micaiah. It also hints that we may be getting Micaiah pretty soon. (At least, she could be the next Tellius character to show up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, eclipse said: THAT'S ENOUGH ABOUT THE LOVE/HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CHARACTERS, THANK YOU. Okay, sorry. Will never discuss this stuff again. (hope it works on the other party too though) 5 minutes ago, Kaiyumi said: These teams with +10 Sharena are making me go what. Unless I'm blatantly missing something, there really shouldn't be any way to raise the starting trio to any +level right now, yeah? You can't get dupes of the starting trio, so that's definitely hacked. Which is also why I don't do Advanced arena battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kaiyumi said: I'm...genuinely curious how many teams I run into in the arena are hacked now. While having a full team of Level 40+10 focus characters seemed very unlikely (albeit possible if you spent thousands, I suppose) to begin with... These teams with +10 Sharena are making me go what. Unless I'm blatantly missing something, there really shouldn't be any way to raise the starting trio to any +level right now, yeah? One of two things: 1. There's a theory that those units are bots from Nintendo (where they're either stuff like that, or +10 units that aren't naturally 5*), but this wouldn't apply unless you're super-high in the arena. 2. Hackers. Not sure which it is, but my more cynical side is leaning towards the second option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiyumi Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 @Vaximillian @Roflolxp54 @eclipse Ah ha! I suspected as much, but thank you three for confirming! Seems like there are a lot of hacked characters running amok in the Advanced battles then, fffff-- And that's interesting @ the Nintendo bots thing. I'll admit that I'm a little cynical myself, so I'd also guess the latter, but it's be nice if that wasn't true! :'D(and on a very off-topic side note, but something that I feel needs to be said regardless, A+ Sara Valestein avatar aaaaa--) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianime94 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) I'm failing to see the reasons of Nintendo's putting bots into the Arena, so I'm inclined to agree to the second option. Not to mention, we have this kind of things running around atm: Edited March 1, 2017 by pianime94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immatx Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Okay, sorry. Will never discuss this stuff again. (hope it works on the other party too though) You can't get dupes of the starting trio, so that's definitely hacked. Which is also why I don't do Advanced arena battles. Are you able to rank without doing advanced battles? I barely made it to 4000 with all lv40, 1 4*, doing only advanced. Although it could be because my units die a lot..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, immatx said: Are you able to rank without doing advanced battles? I barely made it to 4000 with all lv40, 1 4*, doing only advanced. Although it could be because my units die a lot..... Nope, I'm not. I did ≈1800 offence points this week and ≈3600 the week before that because I didn't bother to train my Eirika, Seliph, Catria, or Narcian just for the arena. I'm only doing intermediate because I'm a coward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just a question, what characters are you usually running in your arenas and what level/rarity are they? Because I go through the arena with m!Robin and Takumi (level 40 and 5-star) doing most of the work and a 4-star recently hit level 40 Clarine doing healing work. The last character right now is a level 1 Narcian who just stays out of the way, but it was a 5-star Alfonse until the bonus characters switched. Even advanced arena battles don't give me too much trouble, although there are a few times I do get outmatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immatx Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Nope, I'm not. I did ≈1800 offence points this week and ≈3600 the week before that because I didn't bother to train my Eirika, Seliph, Catria, or Narcian just for the arena. I'm only doing intermediate because I'm a coward. 3600 isn't bad though. Outside of my last 2 runs which were advanced, my highest score was 3000. I don't think advanced is really all that hard as long as you have a balanced team, and a dancer certainly helps. Unless you've had REALLY bad pulls I think you'd be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immatx Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Just a question, what characters are you usually running in your arenas and what level/rarity are they? Because I go through the arena with m!Robin and Takumi (level 40 and 5-star) doing most of the work and a 4-star recently hit level 40 Clarine doing healing work. The last character right now is a level 1 Narcian who just stays out of the way, but it was a 5-star Alfonse until the bonus characters switched. Even advanced arena battles don't give me too much trouble, although there are a few times I do get outmatched. I use 5* Julia, 5* Azura, 5* Roy, and 4* Effie, all at lv 40. I usually have to use my whole team to win unless it's a map Julia can solo with Azuras dancing as support. I'm 17-2 with this teamin advanced matches, although I started off 1-2, and am only 1-2 against Takumi, my lone win against him was actually my last match. Most of the time it's fairly easy to win, although I almost always lose a unit doing so. Edit: just realized I double posted, so sorry for that, will not do it again :( Edited March 1, 2017 by immatx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, immatx said: I use 5* Julia, 5* Azura, 5* Roy, and 4* Effie, all at lv 40. I usually have to use my whole team to win unless it's a map Julia can solo with Azuras dancing as support. I'm 17-2 with this teamin advanced matches, although I started off 1-2, and am only 1-2 against Takumi, my lone win against him was actually my last match. Most of the time it's fairly easy to win, although I almost always lose a unit doing so. Edit: just realized I double posted, so sorry for that, will not do it again :( Hmmm. Have Effie take care of Takumi, and use Julia to heal her up. If you do it right, Wary Fighter should always be active. With Roy, you can Shove Effie around, meaning that she can potentially move three tiles a turn. What other arena units give you trouble? I can go over 4K with 5* Young Tiki, 4* Odin, 4* Raven, and 3* Olivia (with Olivia being at level 30 or so). From a rough guesstimate, you should be able to hit 4300+, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, pianime94 said: I'm failing to see the reasons of Nintendo's putting bots into the Arena, so I'm inclined to agree to the second option. Not to mention, we have this kind of things running around atm: Where did you get this picture from? Pianime is hacker confirmed. Just kidding but the kicker is that this "person" is only rank 5! Lol number one must be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immatx Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, eclipse said: Hmmm. Have Effie take care of Takumi, and use Julia to heal her up. If you do it right, Wary Fighter should always be active. With Roy, you can Shove Effie around, meaning that she can potentially move three tiles a turn. What other arena units give you trouble? I can go over 4K with 5* Young Tiki, 4* Odin, 4* Raven, and 3* Olivia (with Olivia being at level 30 or so). From a rough guesstimate, you should be able to hit 4300+, easily. Takumi is the only one. In theory that works, but she takes to much damage from Takumi, so even after a heal she's under half, and dies next turn because of it. Its not really an issue of going up against certain units, besides Takumi, it's more because I have so many units die. Besides Effie, none of them can really take a physical attack, which is the majority of arena units at the moment. Roy actually doesn't usually end up doing much, as Julia can 2 shot every green unit I've faced so far. My strategy has been set up Effie as a blockade, and have Julia double snipe. Roy only gets involved if I'm in trouble, and acts as Effie's crutch to help her get around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 That's not even theoretically possible right now, isn't it? What's the highest legal score that one could hypothetically have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Just kidding but the kicker is that this "person" is only rank 5! Lol number one must be worse. 251 defence score? laaame, my legit team did 263 last week How the hell is defence score calculated anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: 251 defence score? laaame, my legit team did 263 last week How the hell is defence score calculated anyway? Pretty sure it's how much units they kill before they die and stat totals might be something too. Edited March 1, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: That's not even theoretically possible right now, isn't it? What's the highest legal score that one could hypothetically have? Well, a +10 Hector has the highest possible rating of 204. Will a team including a bonus character facing 4 40+10 Hectors stand for potential 1632 points? (I have no slightest idea on how the score is calculated.) Just now, Arcanite said: Pretty sure it's how much units they kill before they die and state totals might be something too. This makes sense but the points for offence (a single battle) and defence differ so sharply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, pianime94 said: I'm failing to see the reasons of Nintendo's putting bots into the Arena, so I'm inclined to agree to the second option. Not to mention, we have this kind of things running around atm: That's just sad. I really hope Nintendo cracks down on all these hackers. I placed top 5000 last week, and I wonder what percentage of people above me were hackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Vaximillian said: Well, a +10 Hector has the highest possible rating of 204. Will a team including a bonus character facing 4 40+10 Hectors stand for potential 1632 points? (I have no slightest idea on how the score is calculated.) This makes sense but the points for offence (a single battle) and defence differ so sharply. According to this, if you defeat a team with four 204 units while using a bonus character (if it's even possible to face such a team while using a bonus character), you'll get 708 points. If you somehow did that 7 times in a row, you'd get 4956 points. So if all that is true, it's completely impossible to get a >5k score legitimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Sunwoo said: Just a question, what characters are you usually running in your arenas and what level/rarity are they? Because I go through the arena with m!Robin and Takumi (level 40 and 5-star) doing most of the work and a 4-star recently hit level 40 Clarine doing healing work. The last character right now is a level 1 Narcian who just stays out of the way, but it was a 5-star Alfonse until the bonus characters switched. Even advanced arena battles don't give me too much trouble, although there are a few times I do get outmatched. I tend to always run season heroes. My first season team was 5* Lyn, 4* Alfonse, Sharena and MRobin. During the second season I'm using 4* Odin, 5* Lyn, 5* Effie and 3* Olivia/5* Klein. Once the season's over I'll switch Odin in favor of a new hero. I'm also training 5* Sheena and 5* Nowi to get use of them. Olivia definitely wrecks arena offensively, once I switched her for Klein I had bits of issues because of the lack of dance and one or two missteps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Othin said: According to this, if you defeat a team with four 204 units while using a bonus character (if it's even possible to face such a team while using a bonus character), you'll get 708 points. If you somehow did that 7 times in a row, you'd get 4956 points. So if all that is true, it's completely impossible to get a >5k score legitimately. So it's not even like they did matches to get this rank. They just straight up hacked the numbers. Lol that's hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolvir Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 18 hours ago, unique said: yeah her voice is fine it's more the artwork that's the problem Ok cool. Seeing her artwork and not knowing the character at all was a shock when I heard the voice. I figured something was up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Vaximillian said: 251 defence score? laaame, my legit team did 263 last week How the hell is defence score calculated anyway? Surviving Units' Ratings summed together = Defense Score>? That theory sounds weird, since in my case, a 288 Def score when all of my units run between 165 and 190 Rating...imply weird math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Elieson said: Surviving Units' Ratings summed together = Defense Score>? That theory sounds weird, since in my case, a 288 Def score when all of my units run between 165 and 190 Rating...imply weird math The theory would make sense if rating didn't include HP, which it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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