Sunwoo Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 People may not bring up something about the game that made them angry months after it happened, but they're still going to not be happy about it. Complaining about it on the Internet when it initially happens is a good way to vent (and to see how the community as a whole feels), but talking about it months on end after the damage has been done will get nothing done and gets kind of annoying if it's all too often. After all, people will eventually know how you feel, so no need to bring it up out of the blue every time for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Hawk King said: I'm always interested when someone mentions Lukas. What did you come up with? I figured that his sky-high base Atk was usually ignored, so I slapped a Brave Lance on a +Atk one. Since his defenses are so high, I can have him bait stuff, and usually wind up at half health. . .and then Defiant Atk, Brash Assault, and Desperation kick in,, for quad attacks on anything that hits melee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Guys, gals, lest we forget, seasonals must be destroyed. Moving on to our regular schedule… 28 minutes ago, Tybrosion said: I wish you the best of luck too! Dreams can still come true after a year at minimum, as I recently found. Don’t let your dreams be memes, eh? Congrats! It is a bit tiring to wait for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said: Is that really a fair way to look at it though? What they did with Refine for oldies was to update their effect to new standard giving them good stats at the same time. The end result is the same if anything Killer weapon existing is the bigger issue for me personally. My problem is with the cost of it. So, with the old Breaths compared to Water Breath and new inheritable Breaths, you have to refine the older Breaths, spend 500 Arena Medals, 50 Refining Stones, and 350 SP, in order to get the ability to target the lower defensive stat of ranged units. With the new Breaths, its on there by default. Refining in general is worth the stats, increased or strengthened effects, and addition of effects, but it kind of sucks that older weapons have to pay more while newer weapons don't. Basically, you have to go through more hoops for older weapons to get the same/similar results. If you have the resources, it's not that big of a deal, but if you don't, it's kind of annoying like all you need to do with Safeguard is just inherit it and refining it just gives more stats while with Berkut's Lance, you can work with +4 resistance when attacked, but +7 is better and you have to refine it to get the effect. Gameplay-wise, it's definitely noticeable. 4* M!Kana has a much easier time dealing with units in general than 4* F!Corrin, Fae, Nowi, and adult Tiki when unrefined Water Breath can target the lower defensive stat of ranged units or if you somehow had two of the same Lon'qus, but one of them has Slaying Edge while the other has his default Killing Edge. Having to evolve weapons is an issue with how weak their base versions are, but at least it's the same effect. It's not like going from a weaker Wo Dao having +5 damage when triggering specials to +10 or Armorslayer's effective damage being 1.25 instead of 1.5 against armors. Still, for those who are stuck with those weapons, it's another hoop to go through just to get where they need to go. 28 minutes ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said: As for Blaze Durandal did they EVER give a refine to new standard weapon so far? I always considered every holy weapon after CYL1 new standard while many of the introduced during refinement era an old standard that can be refined to new standard. Refine old standard have 2 effect and 5 HP. New standard have stats and effect from the get go or 2 effect Nope, but I would like it if all weapons could be refined. Even if it's just for stats like all of the Distant Counter weapons only being able to get stat boosts if refined, I'd be okay with that. At the same time, I like watching the world burn, so Berserk Armads getting a refine and getting +20 special damage or something stupid works too. Probably not going to happen. Its unique effect would probably be a Breath effect at best. That said, it would be interesting to see what they would do for the newer legendary/personal weapons for refinements since some of them are really stupid. Some of them aren't that stupid compared to the more recent ones which is to no one's surprise as newer units and weapons are getting stronger and stronger. Audhulma is probably the worst example since it's basically a resistance refined Slaying Edge+ with +2 Mt and +1 Res. If you give that up for a resistance refined Slaying Edge+, then Joshua gains +5 HP for -2 Mt and -1 Res which increases his overall bulk and his damage output from specials is pretty good. Or you could give him a resistance refined Wo Dao+ and run his default set of Close Def, Windsweep, and Moonbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrosion Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Don’t let your dreams be memes, eh? Congrats! It is a bit tiring to wait for so long. Thanks! She even got +Atk/-HP, which makes up for the pain of the -Atk on my Bride Sanaki and the -Spd on my Bride Tharja. Oh, and there hasn’t been a point where I’ve wanted a boon/bane trading or changing mechanic more than now. Why? my “Normal Girl” Tharja: +Spd/-Def my Obsessive Bride Tharja: +Def/-Spd Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Tybrosion said: my “Normal Girl” Tharja: +Spd/-Def my Obsessive Bride Tharja: +Def/-Spd Tharja doesn’t want to think in absolutes. She doesn’t want her Christmas version to be the slowest red mage, and her bridal version to be the fastest red mage. So rebellious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 @Vaximillian curious where do you know Julia is coming at 5th? My Julia merge dream is crushed under the sheer bs of Hero fest 2 Rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said: @Vaximillian curious where do you know Julia is coming at 5th? Here: I wonder who is going to be the third slot. I’m calling them to reuse the Genealogy tempest’s final map for this event, as they did with Takumi, two Grimas, and Saias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Here: I wonder who is going to be the third slot. I’m calling them to reuse the Genealogy tempest’s final map for this event, as they did with Takumi, two Grimas, and Saias. Leif? Deirdre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomata Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Here: I wonder who is going to be the third slot. Seliph, Julia, Sigurd, and Deirdre. Family reunion! ...in hell :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, bethany81707 said: The community's still angry at Ayra, it's just even the most bitter of croaky old men can't keep it up for months. I don't know if I can ever forgive them for Sanaki, even if FE16 is better than Odyssey and has no fanservice of adults, let alone kids. Odyssey as in Etrian Odyssey? 9 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Here: I wonder who is going to be the third slot. I’m calling them to reuse the Genealogy tempest’s final map for this event, as they did with Takumi, two Grimas, and Saias. Incoming unannounced Scathatch release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, silveraura25 said: Leif? Deirdre? Sharing a colour either way, eh? If it’s Deirdre, I’m going to rob a bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Dat galeforce tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 About 75% of my total spend on this game has been to get Julia. I wish I could go back in time and slap some sense into 2017 me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) All this talk of Julia makes me nostalgic for my own Julia Spoiler One of my very first pulls in the game. I will always love using her, especially with how many Rienhardt’s and Dragons she has killed Edited May 28, 2018 by Poimagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Don't care about any legendary banner without L!Ephraim There will probably be winter's envoy units on the banner for those who want armor skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I was thinking to pull blue on one of the actual banners to get finally some Cordelias, since 2 units sharing one color raises the chance to get a 5*. Shiro copies would be handy, but hasn't priority and F!Morgan would be a more or less useless pity breaker for me. I'm missing both blue brides but don't need either. ... then I slapped myself to remind me of the upcoming legendary banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmender Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The Legendary banner... I'll skip it because it doesn't have Spd Tactic fodder L!Lyn. I'll keep going for more bride Lyns Bridelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said: Odyssey as in Etrian Odyssey? Mario Odyssey. And yeah, I can't come to care about the legendary banner, especially with no orbs for the first time in forever. Getting both Legendary and Bride Lyn is luck enough- trying for anything on this next legendary is pushing it. If Tharja's on it, I might even take the chance to not use all 15 orbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 5 hours ago, eclipse said: I figured that his sky-high base Atk was usually ignored, so I slapped a Brave Lance on a +Atk one. Since his defenses are so high, I can have him bait stuff, and usually wind up at half health. . .and then Defiant Atk, Brash Assault, and Desperation kick in,, for quad attacks on anything that hits melee. Definitely go with Brazen Atk/Def if you pull an Ares. Getting below 50% would probably be tricky/dangerous. Although when he does fall into the quad range that would be pretty nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Hawk King said: Definitely go with Brazen Atk/Def if you pull an Ares. Getting below 50% would probably be tricky/dangerous. Although when he does fall into the quad range that would be pretty nasty. With the uhhh exception of Bladetomes for stack kickstart theres legitimately no reason to use Defiant anymore over Brazen right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Hawk King said: Definitely go with Brazen Atk/Def if you pull an Ares. Getting below 50% would probably be tricky/dangerous. Although when he does fall into the quad range that would be pretty nasty. I'll most likely +10 my own Ares first. Defiant is risky, but that's also when Brash Assault kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, eclipse said: I'll most likely +10 my own Ares first. I had a feeling you'd say that. I'll also do the same. I like how he performs as a unit, but what is it that drives you to +10 him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, silveraura25 said: I had a feeling you'd say that. I'll also do the same. I like how he performs as a unit, but what is it that drives you to +10 him? It would be hard to explain without sounding like a complete and utter lunatic. Gameplay-wise, I like melting everything that isn't Lukas/Effie. I have him on my TT team, and this is the most fun I've had with the mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewyn Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Poimagic said: All this talk of Julia makes me nostalgic for my own Julia Hide contents One of my very first pulls in the game. I will always love using her, especially with how many Rienhardt’s and Dragons she has killed Nice! Very similar to mine except I gave her atk ploy since mine is +res, and also Fury. I summoned her on her initial banner, man has she aged wonderfully. She was a godsend for me back then, and she still serves well now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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