Pimalai Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) We usually get a 2* and a 1* copy that you can merge and obtain SPs (and possibly a stat boost?) with. Is it worth it to make all the way from 2* to 4/5* with these characters? I'd really like to have a levelled up Olivia, for example, but I don't know if it would be just better to spend feathers on other characters and wait for her to be summoned, some day. TY! Edited February 14, 2017 by Pimalai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) If you like them, raise the 2* units and upgrade them to 3/4/5 stars. It's usually not worth merging the 1* units because they give so little SP you're better off getting the feathers. If you do upgrade units and later pull them from summoning, you can merge them if they are the same rarity. Edited February 14, 2017 by Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Seems you can only get them once though? Sophia is the first on the rotation and is showing up again today but it seems you can't get her again. (there goes the free 15 feathers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It's probably for people who missed the higher leveled one when they got started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soanevalcke6 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I just send them all home for a small amount of feathers. You can roll all of them easily as 3 or 4 stars. If I didn't get lucky and roll a 5* Azura in my first roll, I probably would have Ranked up Olivia though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymodez Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 If I don't have that particular hero, I'll keep the 2* and merge the 1*. I generally keep myself entertained with this game by leveling up every character, regardless who they are, fan favorite or not, and/or how weak or strong they are. Plus, gives me more content to upload to my youtube channel :) Look me up for FEH videos! Aymodez YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sire Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I can't confirm this information, but if I remember right, the free characters are guaranteed to be "Average" or "Medium" in all 5 stats (HP, ATT, SPD, DEF, RES), like Alfonse, Sharena, and Anna. This can be useful for some individuals who like having a balanced character instead of a Boon & Bane from normal summoning. Otherwise, unless that particular character is one of your favorites or happens to fulfill a role the player doesn't have (Olivia for dancing, Lissa or Wyrs for healing, etc.) then the only thing they are good for is for merging or sending home for a small amount of feathers. I personally kept Lissa, Cecilia, Felicia, and Olivia while everyone else was sent home. Lissa is an alternative healer, Cecilia is one of the rare magic units I have, Felicia (both of them) I plan on raising to 5* for the "Ultimate Felicia Merge," and Olivia fulfills the dancer role as I do not have Azura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I keep 'em as consolation prizes until I roll a 3 star or higher. The 1-stars are useful for collecting skill data XD Also, the support characters like Olivia and Lissa are decent no matter their rarity, since they don't have to fight much. Getting SP for them can be a drag though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymodez Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VincentASM said: I keep 'em as consolation prizes until I roll a 3 star or higher. The 1-stars are useful for collecting skill data XD Also, the support characters like Olivia and Lissa are decent no matter their rarity, since they don't have to fight much. Getting SP for them can be a drag though... I second what your opinion on getting SP for support troops like Olivia. However, healers are easy! Any healer can be pl'd quickly to level 20+ with one full stamina (50/50) -- and each heal produces an SP for them... unless I'm seeing 'SP +1' pop up randomly on them after each heal lol Edited February 14, 2017 by Aymodez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Getting 2* characters up to 3* is pretty easy, especially with shards, so I've been doing that for characters I don't have 3* or better versions of. I've merged a few 1*s, although I'll probably just turn the others into feathers because the SP is so trivial. I do plan to keep and train my 2* Narcian even though he's a duplicate, because he's great and there's no word on any more copies of him becoming available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymodez Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Othin said: Getting 2* characters up to 3* is pretty easy, especially with shards, so I've been doing that for characters I don't have 3* or better versions of. I've merged a few 1*s, although I'll probably just turn the others into feathers because the SP is so trivial. I do plan to keep and train my 2* Narcian even though he's a duplicate, because he's great and there's no word on any more copies of him becoming available. If I'm not mistaken, using shards to level up heroes will not net you any SP -- in fact, you'll lose out on possible SP from the levels you've gained through leveling up with shards. Can someone confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Aymodez said: If I'm not mistaken, using shards to level up heroes will not net you any SP -- in fact, you'll lose out on possible SP from the levels you've gained through leveling up with shards. Can someone confirm this? You still get the SP from the level up. But not the SP + 3 boost from having killed an appropriately leveled enemy. I keep the 2 star units around to fill out my collection of characters. The only 2 stars I raised are the three lords and Olivia, who must be 3 star in order to get the Dance skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Aymodez said: If I'm not mistaken, using shards to level up heroes will not net you any SP -- in fact, you'll lose out on possible SP from the levels you've gained through leveling up with shards. Can someone confirm this? I've gotten plenty of SP from using shards to mass-level heroes. I assume it corresponds with the SP gains they'd get from each of those levels (6/lv for 1-10, 12/lv for 11-20, etc.) but doesn't include the SP you get outside of levels from killing or healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymodez Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gustavos said: You still get the SP from the level up. But not the SP + 3 boost from having killed an appropriately leveled enemy. I keep the 2 star units around to fill out my collection of characters. The only 2 stars I raised are the three lords and Olivia, who must be 3 star in order to get the Dance skill. Thanks for the confirming @Gustavos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Look at their skill pool and see if you want them on your team or not. I keep them just in case, and have raised all of them to 3*. All of them have their uses and niches, it is really fun to switch teams and train low leveled units. Personally it is satisfying to empower them. The ones I've seen are really good are Felicia, Olivia, Lissa and Cecilia. Anyways, they cost 200 feathers to 3* and if you like someone in particular, like me with Cecilia, 4* it since its just 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) What I've been doing is raising the 1* into a 2*, (I just used shards for this the first time around because eff that noise), then merging the 2* on top of the upgraded one to get a lv+ 2*. Get a little extra SP as well from this method. The cost in feathers of upgrading from 1* to 2* is honestly so inconsequential that I have no qualms in suggesting it. This, in turn, makes upgrading to 3* cost fewer feathers due to the unit already being lv+. I currently have a 3* Sophia from the second Soph event by this method and I think she has more SP than she'd have had if I just raised the 2* version. So, there is SOME merit to using both...? IMO anyway Edited February 15, 2017 by BANRYU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 It's generally not worth unless you really really need that unit and you can't pull it, if you ask me. So far, Olivia and Felicia are the best out of the current rotation. Notably, Olivia only gets the Silver Sword+ from upgrading to 5*, so she is pretty much fully functional at 4*. This is a huge merit to her usability, so I suggest you raise her, if no one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure how the mechanic works But if it works the way i think it is, the optimal way to go about Olivia for f2p players is to raise up the 2* all the way to 5*, and raise up the 1* into 3* level 1 To be more on topic, honestly just.... don't mind about Feather usage. Investment is investment. You could actually get a pretty workable line up just by having the rotation heroes at 4* with all their skills leveled up. If you get a hero unit that is the same as the rotation? Then you just hope for better feather access in the future, so you can access the Merge Character option. Edited February 15, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 6 hours ago, shadowofchaos said: It's probably for people who missed the higher leveled one when they got started. It's also good for people who missed a day. I didn't play at all on launch day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Rezzy said: It's also good for people who missed a day. I didn't play at all on launch day. I'm in about the same boat. My phone couldn't run the game well enough to get past the second tutorial map, and by the time I realized the issue wasn't going to go away and got it running on my computer, it was already the second day. Although I got a 3* Sophia quickly anyway. I did forget to do one of the 1* maps (Subaki, I think), so I'm glad to get another chance at it, even if it's only for the sake of completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Othin said: I'm in about the same boat. My phone couldn't run the game well enough to get past the second tutorial map, and by the time I realized the issue wasn't going to go away and got it running on my computer, it was already the second day. Although I got a 3* Sophia quickly anyway. I did forget to do one of the 1* maps (Subaki, I think), so I'm glad to get another chance at it, even if it's only for the sake of completion. I wouldn't mind them running a new string of 2* Hero Battles concurrent with the ones we have now. It's good if you really want a certain unit and you're willing to use your feathers. 2*-4* is manageable. I raised up Olivia, because I really wanted a Dancer, but then I Pulled a 4* Olivia the next day, lucky me. I would raise Leo to 5* if I got him as even a 1*. I just want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflolxp54 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 hours ago, VincentASM said: Also, the support characters like Olivia and Lissa are decent no matter their rarity, since they don't have to fight much. Getting SP for them can be a drag though... Lissa can easily farm SP if she gets EXP. through her heals (I have a lv. 39 4* Lissa with over 1600 SP and nothing to use it on - the only skill she has yet to learn is the 5*-locked Renewal 3 skill). I find training Olivia a bit easier than training Anna (my Anna seems to die rather easily). Brought my 2* Olivia up to 4* (Olivia can't dance until she's at least 3* rarity). She does have support from Sharena (Fortify Def and Rally Atk) and Lissa (heals and basically being a distracting meatshield). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've kept every single one, and am raising them. They all look like they'll have their uses (even Donnel), and I need all the characters I can get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimalai Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) If I understand correctly, there's more benefit in merging when the sacrificed unit is levelled up? or it just depends on its rarity? I'm definetely making a 4* Olivia and will pass on the rest, for the moment. Edited February 15, 2017 by Pimalai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Only depends on rarity. You only get SP when the food is of lower rarity, when of same or higher you get SP and stats. You also get a reduction in promotion cost in both cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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