GrandeRampel

I'm sorry, looking back I think I misinterpreted what you said. To me it seemed like you were saying that F!Kris was too unpopular, especially compared to the others, so it's unrealistic to expect IS to give her attention. But you are right that you never stated that, I just thought you were implying it.

I mean on one hand you are right, but on the other hand IS has always tried to keep things as equal as possible for selectable gender characters. Always introducing both genders at the same time even if it resulted in strange stuff like M!Kana as a GHB unit, or M!Byleth as a weird "available first on a legendary banner" unit. Currently we have gender parity for Morgan, Kana and Byleth, and we obviously have the same number of options for each gender of Kiran. And for the unbalanced ones, it's always a difference of a single alt, with pretty much everyone expecting the balance to be restored with a legendary M!Corrin someday (even if he is less popular like F!Kris compared to the counterpart) and some kind of Robin simply because it would be weird for a consistently popular character like M!Robin to be ignored forever. You would have more of a point if M!Kris also got nothing, because then we could speculate that both Krises were too unpopular for alts, but since they aren't it makes no sense to deliberatly exclude F!Kris when she is not THAT unpopular. You are mentioning the difference in rank, but I would more look at the number of votes since the lower you go in CYL the more even a couple of votes can change your position. M!Kris got 499 votes in CYL 5, while F!Kris got 294. 200 votes may seem much, but since we are drawing a comparison between avatars, wanna know how many votes the least popular of the non-Kris avatars got? 2.027 1500 votes didn't make M!Kris too unpopular to join the cool kids club with the others but now you are telling me a couple hundred less make a huge wall that F!Kris can't overcome? It seems a bit farfetched to me, and it's not like IS hasn't picked characters that were deep cuts into the 300th-400th rank for seasonals before. Just to give an example in Cyl5 F!Kris is surrounded on both sides by characters like M!Morgan, Clair, Zeke, Ursula, Rinkah, Shannan, Xane, Ares, Aversa, Lethe, Flora, Merric who are separated from her by less than 50 votes, which are pretty much nothing in the developers' eyes. They are functionally exactly as popular as her. And each of them either has an alt already or could get one in the next seasonal banner and nobody would bat an eye or think they are a weird pick for an alt. This narrative that: "oh, F!Kris is a literal who of a character that nobody likes, I would call shenanigans if she got an alt! But Shannan, of course he is a lock for the next Jugdral seasonals if they do gen 2, everyone knows he is popular!" is ill-conceived and needs to die yesterday. But now I realize, I'm putting words in your mouth with this Kris vs Shannan comparison. For all I know you are a big Shannan hater and always exclude characters with less than 400 votes from banner speculation with complete fairness and no bias against F!Kris in particular, I'm mostly ranting here against people that use CYL results to shut-down characters they don't like while at the same time pushing characters they do like with very similar results. The point is if anything this proves that "patterns" about female avatars getting an alt in summer and males in winters are bullsh*t like all other patterns. But an F!Kris alt on like Christmas is still possible and imho very likely, sorry, I disagree with you there. Anyway the banner is good, three characters getting their first alt and one making his debut, and the harmonic was totally out of left field, which I like because it's better to be surpising than predictable. And about their art... yeah I have to admit it's flawed, but it has some neat details like the shoes and imho it's far from the worst in the game. With art like Rebecca, Lloyd and HS!Camilla you can feel the wrongness (and creepiness) at first glance, while Caeda-Plumeria is mostly just basic and stiff. It looks less polished than the really great art the other characters on the banner got, but nothing offensive or ugly.

1. Dorothy FE6 2. Saul FE6 3. Niime FE6 4. Tina FE5 5. Sonia FE7 6. Mozu FE14 7. Nyx FE14 8. Reina FE14 9. Marianne FE16 10. Ashe FE16 11. Constance FE16 12. Jeanne FE4 13. Cath FE6 14. Orson FE8 15. Gilliam FE8 16. Nuibaba FE15 17. Medeus FE3/12 18. Marcia FE9/10 19. Fiona FE10 20. Heather FE10 4/20 (nice) for me this far. And other than Nuibaba, Jeanne and Tina all the others still have a chance of happening this year so I guess the one more at risk is Medeus because who knows if we will have another non-OC mythic this year. Maybe if they hold off Eitri for a while like they did Hel and Freyr keeps getting shafted he has a shot.

Oh yes, I agree. It's so weird that with the playable cast almost complete and so many villains to pick from, SoV only got Berkut, Rudolf, Duma and Rinea if we want to get technical. Nuibaba and Fernand are baffling because they are the type of characters that FEH usually likes. Slayde also could get in on meme potential alone (he has the same energy as Kempf, Narcian and Valter to me) and Jedah is relevant to the plot, which is another factor that helped villains before. It's so weird.

Okay let's start with the positives: - Really happy to get a Shanna alt. Remember when she won against Takumi in a VG and we started joking that she would get an alt as a reward? It took years but here we are. Which is good, I want all VG winners to have at least two versions in the game (Wrys alt when, IS?). - New unit type is always a big deal. - The next harmonic is now guaranteed to have Thracia or TMS, both games in dire need of more units to work with for stuff like resonant battles. - I will never be unhappy with THREE brand new characerts on a seasonal banner. It's like they are compensating for the zero new characters on the children banner. - They will remind us that they are heterosexual in every sentence, but I don't care. I will still take the image of two brides holding and protecting each other and run with the implications. If Catria/Thea fem-slash doesn't become a thing I will be greatly disappointed. If I had a nickel for every time FEH solved the inherit cringeness of a girl pining over a married lord by pairing her with a cute light-blue haired gal with short hair in a seasonal banner I would have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice (the first time was Faye and Silque). - This one is more of a hope, and isn't guaranteed at all, but... first Duo Palla, then Harmonic Catria. Duo/Harmonic Est in our future??? I hope so, the last time the pattern meant something and we eventually got Spring Est. It's cool of IS to remember the Est fanbase and give her nice things from time to time. Plus it will be hilarious seeing the haters foam at the mouth and seriously try to explain why she doesn't "deserve" a third version using math and stuff. - Saul getting in the game is awesome, but... Now for the negatives: - MOOD! Seriously I was so happy for a moment, and then the disappointment hit like a truck. Is this how Kieran fans feel like? Is this how I would have felt two years ago if we got only Sigrun, with no Tanith? Whatever the case, sh*t is wack! What were they thinking separating the dynamic duo like that? You can't have Saul without Dorothy. That would be like Delthea without Luthier, or Astram without Midia. Wait... - Man RIP SoV fans. They technically got something but I doubt they wanted more Catria. At this point I really hope the next new hero banner is for them, becauze if not I don't know what to say. - Is it me or are Blue Flying Tomes getting way more units than Red or Green variants? Maybe it's just my impression.

Zombie Sumeragi - Infantry sword (the possessed Sumeragi that killed his own wife with Ganglari) Hegemon Husk - Colorless beast (self-explanatory) Risen King Chrom - Armored sword (based on the Cipher card) Witch Sonya - Blue mage flying (AU in which she ends up like her sisters. Foreshadowed by the HoF) Necrodragon Morva - GHB breath (based on his boss fight in Sacred Stones) That's who I think we will get, but I also think other characters like Dead Scarlet, an alt of Julius and feral dragon Ninian are likely.

YES! That would be wild! I would love it if the twins drove their grandma insane by constantly pestering her with questions (Raigh) and affection (Lugh). Raigh: "Hey granny I heard you were literally created with magic. That sounds badass, you must help me learn to do that as well." Lugh: "Ms. Sonia, I know that this is very new to you. It's the same for me, since I never had a mom, much less a grandma, but I asked around to Mr. Pent, Ms. Igrene, Mr. Bantu, Mr. Greil, Ms. Dithorba, and many other parents, and I compiled a list of 100 activities that will help us forge a strong familial bond and make up for lost time. Of course mother and father will partecipate as well. Are you free right now?" Sonia: "SUMMONER! Summoner, I beg of you, send me back! I thought Nino was an annoying brat, but these two monsters are on another level. I will do anything, but please save me!" Now that I think about it, such a gag could also appear in the FEH manga if we get really lucky.

Nice batch of characters. Personally I don't care about getting out of alt hell as much as others do. I would have gladly exchanged Louise and Pent with Wil and Isadora for example. Still it's cool to reunite Erk with his family and Serra, Farina with her sister and Sonia with her adoptive daughter. Too bad we are still missing Brendan Reed, to actually get the whole family. And I really hope Sonia is one of the GHB who also get to somehow appear in forging bonds like Ashnard. It would be a missed opportunity to not have her interact with Nino or Ursula.

Didn't expect Dedue at all. I'm happy he's in, but now I'm worried about gauntlets and Balthus 😞 Pretty nice selection of characters overall. I'm really happy about Solon. Now we need Thales and Cornelia to get in the game. I will get to make a team with 4 Agarthians one day, dammit!

The only two units I don't have are Seiros and Micaiah, so while it hurts to choose, at least I'm guaranteed to have someone to spark for. I guess I will end up supporting Micaiah because duo heroes are still the rarest units.

She wasn't the one to ambush Annand tho. That was Pamela. The one who looks the same but with longer hair.

I wasn't expecting that kind of personality for Dagr, but I like her. I guess we can expect at least one more OC other than the ones we have already seen with the mother of the two giants. That brings the grand total to 2 males, 5 females and 1 yellow Kiran. It could be better. It could be worse also. I really hope when we arrive in Asgard the Allfather has at least one male servant.

Don't worry, I'll just use my special powers on her next year and she'll be added. That way I can complete the Silessian Knights team too, so it's a win-win for me eheh... Anyway in case it wasn't obvious enough, I'm pulling res and blue until I get all the pegasus ladies. This banner made so happy 🙂 Couldn't have asked for anything better. There are still characters I want from gen 1, but the selection here is just chef's kiss. I hope the gen 2 banner has subtitutes or something else that caters to me since this seems like it will be my lucky year.

UWGUEGEWGWUGWUGVEG!!! WTF!? HOW!? How did this happen? I... I voted for Dithorba... am I magic or something? Am I magic only for pegasus knights, since it worked for Tanith too? I'm shook. Literally cannot believe that days ago I joked that the fout pegasus knights of Silesse would never get into Heroes. Maybe only Erin, in a year or so. And this happens... Pamela confirmed for next Genealogy banner?

I think it's gonna be Echoes, but ngl I hope the weird BHB means it's TMS again or even better Cipher or Warriors.

Wanted to pull colorless hoping for Faye, Tibarn or Micaiah. Got no colorless orbs, so I went with red since it had the highest chance of giving me a new unit, and I ended up with Bride!Oboro so I can't complain. I have always been pretty lucky with the RNG free units, never getting a duplicate.

I'm voting duo Sigurd, Duo Peony, Harmonic Tiki, Plumeria, Seiros, and for the last two days I need to think about it a bit more.

Aside from Sharena missing the Valentine banner looks lovely. I will invest some orbs there for sure. The rest was also nice, buffs for the old legendary were needed and look! They finally demote base Lyn and all the other year 1 5* star, aren't you all happy? Also, lol another Voting Gauntlet AHR. Can't wait to see who will be this year's Edelgard/Leg!Lyn.

This. I really want to believe this game has years of smooth sailing ahead. That would certainly ease any worries I have about my poor unpopular faves. "It's not a matter of IF, just WHEN!" I could use this as a slogan for my Dorothy campaign next year 😛

Happy for Eirika and Marth. Like with Camilla I just care that they won. People put too much importance on the PRF skill imho. Marianne was also a happy surprise. And Gatekeeper... lol. I really hope he isn't an infantry lance. He would be the same as his regular version, like Alm. Because of course we are also getting a regular version, there's no way a character with so many votes remains alt-only like Charlotte. Unless you are an OC and the developers decide that you don't get a base form ever for arbitrary reasons. Which is what I feel might happen to Gustav and Henriette despite their good placement. Alts-only forever. Oh, I also really hope that Marianne gets the Blutgang. Not only because that sword is awesome, but also because this way neither Marth nor Eirika can use a sword. Hurray for forced creativity! If the trend of one popular secondary character from 3H winning the women divsion every year keeps true and we don't get a remake this year... honestly she could have a realistic shot. Her main competition would be Hilda and Dorothea. Okay, now let's see how well the characters I voted for did: - Eirika (2nd place, over 30.000 votes): ehehehe, victory ~ victory ~ - Malice ( 285th place, 262 votes): pretty good. She is first in the New Mystery division and also 3rd overall for Archanea. The only thing that could screw her over is if they made some sort of themed banner around Nyna, regular Hardin and people close to them. Malice would be excluded. But I like her chances. - Phila (356th place, 161 votes): shout-out to the other 160 who voted for her. Not a bad placement at all considering she is such a minor character. She tied with Edain's daughter. - Dithorba (464th place, 41 votes): Yeah, don't know what I was expecting. She tied with Safy from Thracia and the only thing I can't think of is that I feel sorry for Safy fans and Thracia in general. - Dorothy (323rd place, 200 votes): .................................................... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! I feel the urge to scream IRL!!! 11 votes... she is 11 votes away from making the top 5 for wanted Binding Blade units... I even have another Nintendo Account I didn't bother to dig up... if I just tried more... if I convinced more people to vote for her... I feel awful. I know this is still a respectable result, and she tied with a 3H Houses character in Catherine. She is still the 3rd most popular female character from her game... but they usually add the two most popular ones in a year and that's it... GG Cath and Niime fans I guess. I can't even be mad because I like the cast of FE6 with almost no exceptions, I won't start hating those two or anything, but I wanted Dorothy so much more... I'm sorry if it seems like I'm whining, I know that so many of you tried harder than me for characters who placed even worse, like Mercakete with Elena. And that all the Severa fans had to deal with the soul-crashing betrayal of being actually on top for most wanted and getting simply skipped. It's just the fact that she got so close that puts me in a bad mood. The one major bummer of the results, for my most wanted character. It's already a bummer to think she might not get in for another year, but it'a double bummer to think that she could be the sixth character IS would think to put in next time from Binding Blade, but banners only have 5 slots. Well, I got the depressing thoughts out of my system, now I just need to find the silver lining. She is the next natural choice for fans of FE6 who like non-standard designs and fans of FE6 who like brunettes (no Ellen, shut up! Go sit in a corner!) which means after Cath and Niime get in she will see a surge of votes next year! We have CYL6 in the bag gentlemen, I better start preparing for it. Also I guess we could get her this year as a seasonal. IS is known to be careless and make mistakes. Perhaps they could confuse her for a Tellius character /s

And I gave my final vote. For those curious my ballot looks like this: 1: Dorothy 2: Dithorba 3: Phila 4: Eirika 5: Eirika 6: Eirika 7: Malice I had to give my final vote to another criminally overlooked character. The first female mercenary, Malice. Because she looks cool (nobody can convince me Nailah wasn't partially based on her) and she is also a pretty interesting piece of FE history, coming from the first spin-off game. If I can't get the substitute kids, can I at least get sweet Akaneia Saga representation?

Going with Gerik since I don't have a horse in the race, or anything. That's true. She would have been very happy with Ike being the first character with two resplendents too. Whatever happened to her? Was she banned?

Oh, nice! It was strange that we didn't have her in the game yet. Another final boss is added to the game, which is always nice to see. I'm fine with her Mythic version being her dragon form. She can always use her sword in her Rhea version (or she could use her fists, truly the mightiest weapons). Speaking of which, Rhea escapes seasonal only hell and also back-up unit only hell. Poor Elice is all alone there now. Can IS grow a heart and put her in the next Archanea banner please? Anyway pulling blue since I'm also missing Dimitri and I want to walk away with at least one of the two.

1st place: Lute (red tome cavalrly) I made her a mounted mage in Sacred Stones and only magic is worthy of her. 2nd place: Kronya (blue dagger infantry) Yes, you read right. I don't care what you think of me, I would use this once in a lifetime occasion to force IS to give what I always wanted for a DLC. A Kronya who survives and in CF joins you with a timeskip design. THE DREAM! 1st place: Leo (axe cavalry) I love him and for the love of Sothis just give the Bolverk to someone already. 2nd place: Reinhardt (colorless tome infantry) Color balanced Reinhardt would be sick. And I made him infantry for variety and tactics team strats.

"I love democracy" ~ Palpatine, while presenting the new rules of CYL to the public xD @Mercakete Not bad at all for a first draft. At least something good is coming out of this mess of an event. I agree. A bit of column A and a bit of column B.