Matt Snow Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 It should also give more stat boosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanfaire Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hey, should is the "upgraded" silvans only have more might and weight than the other? I've gotten both and I think I might like the "weaker" version better due to less weight. Well, use the Ether Core on Shon than. He should be 4 anything but bosses with the Upgraded Silvans even without it if you got him to 20 before his story promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Gale Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Edit: I have an issue with Rachel. The turn she shows up she's instantly killed by a Hero and a Sniper. She seems really weak and defenseless for a late join to die to easily and it doesn't help that she's so far off when she appears surrounded by enemies. You can actually circumvent the whole 'stalker' thing that would otherwise impede your progress in this chapter, and doing so lets you reach those recruitable units no problem. Just engage/defeat (not sure) the 3-4 ranged attackers in the top center by matching them with your own through the walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Ddit: I have an issue with Rachel. The turn she shows up she's instantly killed by a Hero and a Sniper. She seems really weak and defenseless for a late join to die to easily and it doesn't help that she's so far off when she appears surrounded by enemies. See, there is a very easy and simple solution to this. Don't suck. Edit: Though, I agree that Rachel is a worthless piece of shit. Bow units have it terribly in this game in general, though. Literally the only dedicated bow user (including nomads and ranger) that isn't awful is Haas. Edited September 10, 2012 by Hikarasuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanfaire Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 That was uncalled for. I managed to reload and had Shon with Silvans run ahead at the start just kill everything since only the boss can hurt him. By the time they appeared everyone in the room they appear in was already killed by Shon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I tried playing this. There were no errors with the patch, I'm sure I was using a clean ROM, but in the first cutscene, the game glitched. When I skipped it and went straight to the prologue map, all of the characters had broken mugs and chibis, no units had any names, and when Siegfried levelled up the game hung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 See, there is a very easy and simple solution to this. Don't suck. Edit: Though, I agree that Rachel is a worthless piece of shit. Bow units have it terribly in this game in general, though. Literally the only dedicated bow user (including nomads and ranger) that isn't awful is Haas. Lyam, Gary, Maybe Zach/Storm(With Sieg mode?) Zach is decent though, and Lyam is bro. That was uncalled for. I managed to reload and had Shon with Silvans run ahead at the start just kill everything since only the boss can hurt him. By the time they appeared everyone in the room they appear in was already killed by Shon. You reap what you sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I tried playing this. There were no errors with the patch, I'm sure I was using a clean ROM, but in the first cutscene, the game glitched. When I skipped it and went straight to the prologue map, all of the characters had broken mugs and chibis, no units had any names, and when Siegfried levelled up the game hung. I have the same problem. Tried both XDelta and NUPS methods, tried getting VBA 1.8.0 beta 3, none worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Jim Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) See, there is a very easy and simple solution to this. Don't suck. Edit: Though, I agree that Rachel is a worthless piece of shit. Bow units have it terribly in this game in general, though. Literally the only dedicated bow user (including nomads and ranger) that isn't awful is Haas. While that was totally uncalled for, Hika does have a point. If you can rush your units over to where Rachel and Frederick are and kill everything in the vicinity before turn 10, they are pretty easy to recruit(Don't worry about the boss; he's fairly predictable in where he warps. Just make sure he has nobody he can ORKO in his range.) And as for that second comment, what are you smoking? Haas is mediocre in Anakin's mode, since his 15 speed is no longer special and his growths, to be blunt, suck(Haas's growths are all 25 or under except HP, str, and lck; while the brave bow can help, that only takes you so far.) I'd say that a trained Storm is better due to having all of 7 potential maps to get high leveled enough to promote in Anakin's mode, and that's not getting to Zach(who is decent)and Lyam(who is kind of like a Seth that joins 7 maps in), who show up far earlier than the nomads and actually help out in the wyvern heavy map known as Chapter 20. And to further illustrate my point, Lyam has around the same offensive bases as Haas, but has overall better growth rates in everything except HP(they tie str, luck, and res growths, otherwise, Lyam has better growths.) Though, like I said in my unit review, Lyam has issues gaining exp since even promoted dudes that have a SIGNIFICANT level lead on him give him like 10 exp. Blazer should totally fix his exp gain issues so that he gains exp at the same pace as other promoted units. I will agree on one thing, though: Rachel is absolutely fucking horrible. Words cannot even BEGIN to describe how awful Rachel is. In fact, I'd say that the only character that may be worse than her is Sai, and even HE can become good with training since his averages are pretty good. Rachel is beyond hope as her bases are god awful for both endgame and her level and her growths are not enough to get her out of the pit of despair. Blazer really needs to increase her bases stats to make her a little more viable. Edited September 11, 2012 by Mercenary James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanfaire Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Lyam, Gary, Maybe Zach/Storm(With Sieg mode?) Zach is decent though, and Lyam is bro. You reap what you sow. You need to watch your tongue, I did nothing here to deserve that comment. You really don't want to start a fight with me just because you have a grudge. Edited September 11, 2012 by Fanfaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Kitty Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 you need to stop taking every post so seriously, calm your tits, and take things with a grain of salt seriously, it's getting annoying seeing you complain about everyone posting something and you getting SUPER OFFENDED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 people actually still get offended on the internet? what a riot! anyways when is the time to be promoting units? several of my peeps are getting closer to 20 around mission 19x and i don't want to go in half cocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Gale Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 You'll probably want a couple promoted for 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midleiro F. Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I usually promote all my characters at 19x-20, except one playthrough where I trained 14 units, and the one I played Storm he promoted at 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatEclipse Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Add me to the list of people who cannot play it. The game went completely berserk after the prologue text was finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Gale Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 All fixed now~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamerJarYin Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 When levion returns, does he still have the same stuff that he had, or does he get new shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongLei Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 He gets new stuff so raid his gear, that silver sword and dragon axe are fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamerJarYin Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Shit...I give him the boots and the white gem to hold onto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanfaire Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) That's a shame, there are only like 2 Boots I believe. I used them o the Thief since I thought the Chapter was timed and all had to reach the exit. you need to stop taking every post so seriously, calm your tits, and take things with a grain of salt seriously, it's getting annoying seeing you complain about everyone posting something and you getting SUPER OFFENDED What? You don't like that I don't approve of others picking fights with me for no reason? I'm not like you, I don't let jerks walk all over me. If they have an issue they better take it up with me instead of leaving snarky comments directed towards me in multiple topics. Or they could even be mature and shut their mouths and leave me alone instead of hounding after me. So yeah, I get offended when a jerk follows me around and personally calls me out when the conversation had nothing to do with him not was he wanted in it. It's only right that I let him know that if he continues he will not like the end result because I don't pull my punches when it comes to jerks. Edited September 14, 2012 by Fanfaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 There were so many jerks in that post that I'm surprised nobody's gotten off yet. :B Calm yer tits, bro. Nobody gives a fuck what happens on the net. It's a fucking block of text. It's not going to hurt you. You can poke it with a fucking stick, and it won't fucking move. Calm the fuck down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 There were so many jerks in that post that I'm surprised nobody's gotten off yet. :B Calm yer tits, bro. Nobody gives a fuck what happens on the net. It's a fucking block of text. It's not going to hurt you. You can poke it with a fucking stick, and it won't fucking move. Calm the fuck down. There were so many fucks in that post that I'm surprised nobody's gotten off yet. :B But yeah, p much ^ It's the internet, like, if you don't like it go find a hobby or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I got around to finishing this hack. I thought this hack was pretty good. Had nice gameplay, The storyline was quite decent and it got better around endgame. I ended up forgetting the Emblem lance so i didn't go to Ch. 23xx (No Ether Sphere for me). I didn't really do any sidequest... I even Let Rachel get killed since i felt that the experience was a bit incomplete since i missed those things. I plan to do another Runthrough of this with all sidequests, recruitment and the like. Maybe get all the Treasure (Ch. 25 was a bit difficult to get all the Treasure and meet the turn limit for Ch. 25x). I actually found Ch. 25 to be the hardest. (Ch. 26 is not that difficult as long as your careful and take advantage of torches and torch staves. Ch. 27 was easy once Galagar stays at the throne (I exploited this easily by going to the treasure room and having one of the enemies in the other side attack me. Final Pt. 1 wasn't bad (I blocked off all the staircase tiles in the central room since i was paranoid). Final Pt. 2 was easy as long Leon Didn't crit Kelik). Final Pt. 3 is not that bad if you have Durable and Powerful Units nearby and Healers too. Iron Rune helps too). Overall, it was a pretty nice hack. You did quite a good job. Unit Analysis: - Anakin had a bit of a shaky start combat wise but he eventually caught up. - Kelik was quite broken throughout the entire game. Tanked a lot of tough units and Dealt with most of the endgame bosses Single-Handedly. - Inanna started off as a bit weak but she eventually became a wrecking machine. Would use again - Ace was falling behind near the end. I managed to get him up to snuff right before Final. - Asch was a godsend for Earlygame. He fell behind a bit lategame but he still contributed to the team. - Kevin was awesome. His High Speed, Defense and Strength made him quite dependable. Saved me from so many headaches... - I managed to Get Tamiko to Lv. 20 in Siegfried Mode. She made for a great staff user in Anakin/Kelik's Mode. - Cia had such good Speed and Magic. She got rid of major threats but had trouble with that in late game since her skill was a bit lacking. - Levion is a good backup Paladin. Nuff said - I used Rana since i like Dark Magic. He turned out to be quite useful. With both healing and attacking (Solstice did wonders) - Gary saved me so many headaches in lategame. Got rid of any threatening enemies and Dodged well. Great Backup Axe User and Bow User. - I just took Frederick along for some backup. Didn't really do much. - Karina had a good start but her low speed didn't make her all worthwhile in the end. - Shon was a bit hard to use. Once you get Silvans though, he did quite great. - Howard makes another good Backup Paladin. Not as good as Levion though - Mark sucked. I had the patience to use him up to Ch. 26 but he was just too bad for me to use him beyond that. - Lyam made a good Backup Bow user. Gary becomes his replacement once he comes by though... Unit Class Level HP ST SK SP LK DF RS Weapon Ranks Anakin Noble 20.00 45 21 27 27 30 16 23 S Light D Staves Kelik Legend 20.00 56 27 28 30 25 21 13 S Swords Inanna Falcoknight 20.00 49 24 25 29 20 12 20 S Lances E Swords Ace Halberdier 17.23 59 24 16 26 16 17 16 S Lances Asch Hero 18.01 57 25 25 20 25 18 07 D Swords S Axes Kevin General 20.00 60 29 26 25 11 30 08 S Lances D Axes Tamiko Bishop 20.00 43 20 25 19 16 13 22 C Light S Staves Cia Sage 20.00 39 26 22 26 23 12 14 S Anima D Staves Levion Paladin 16.71 56 20 24 16 13 22 12 A Swords A Axes C Lances Rana Druid 19.93 45 25 22 20 23 18 22 S Dark E Staves Gary Warrior 20.00 59 30 26 25 30 17 14 A Axes A Bows Frederick General 18.87 57 24 22 18 08 30 20 S Axes S Lances Karina Wyvern Lord 03.94 46 16 19 14 17 16 11 A Lances E Swords Shon Arch Knight 16.39 49 19 21 26 21 15 08 S Swords D Lances Howard Paladin 06.50 40 18 13 20 10 15 11 A Swords A Axes B Lances Mark Berserker 02.55 47 18 17 13 11 10 05 A Axes Lyam Ranger 06.68 43 18 16 17 12 14 10 A Swords A Bows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 In general it looks like you were a little lacking in the experience department as you didn't have as many strong/leveled-up units as I'd imagine. Gary is in fact supposed to help quite a bit as he can really wreck a lot of things in case you've fallen behind for some reason. Mark is actually VERY good on average (or at least, that's what his growths, base stats, joining time, etc. suggest), especially since he's the only Berserker, so I'm guessing you got RNG screwed or something. I got little else to say about that, hopefully you didn't encounter -too- many bugs... do be sure to keep updating to the latest versions of the game as to limit the # of problems you may encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) In general it looks like you were a little lacking in the experience department as you didn't have as many strong/leveled-up units as I'd imagine. Gary is in fact supposed to help quite a bit as he can really wreck a lot of things in case you've fallen behind for some reason. Mark is actually VERY good on average (or at least, that's what his growths, base stats, joining time, etc. suggest), especially since he's the only Berserker, so I'm guessing you got RNG screwed or something. I got little else to say about that, hopefully you didn't encounter -too- many bugs... do be sure to keep updating to the latest versions of the game as to limit the # of problems you may encounter. I always did tend to use small teams in FE games as of late. I may use more units next playthrough. I wouldn't rule it out. I did suspect that quite a few units of mine got RNG Screwed. Yep. I'll keep that in mind... Edited September 15, 2012 by Richter Abend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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