GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JSND said: GRINDING ON NON DOUBLE SP DAYS WHAT IS THIS TECHNOLOGY IM NOT GRINDING IM JUST TRYNA GET ORBS 1 minute ago, XRay said: Now that is mean. Give the poor Soul some slack. Comedy takes practice... or no sense of shame. I think "no sense of shame" is more accurate 1 minute ago, XRay said: And that is Karma. Not really. It's my carelessness :P Edited August 11, 2017 by GuiltyLove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) whoops Edited August 11, 2017 by GuiltyLove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, XRay said: If it buffs all allies and gives them all a second turn, then heck yeah. I feel like the diva skill should only be used units with song/dance and it should only last for the turn that it is used, so it doesn't become overpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Anyways, out of the important bosses in Echoes, I would love to see these ones added into the game in the order that's i want them: 1. Deen 2. Berkut Possessed 3. Rudolf 4. Jedah 5. Slayde 6. Desaix (Yes, I want Deen as a grand hero battle. Deal with it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Poimagic said: (Yes, I want Deen as a grand hero battle. Deal with it) The more the merrier! I need my feathers from Infernal matches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Poimagic said: I feel like the diva skill should only be used units with song/dance and it should only last for the turn that it is used, so it doesn't become overpowered. Ha! Like that stopped them from releasing BB!Cordelia with 35/35 offensive stat spread and Cursed Lance with Fury 2 AND Killer built in. Reinhardt gets a pass since the game was still in its infancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Valter (1) Eirika's Army (4) Ephraim's Army (4) 9 new units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This is amazing. My pity rate for summer is at 4.50% now. I wonder what the highest pity rate is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I got to 5.00% in the Ylissean Summer banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fruity Insanity said: I got to 5.00% in the Ylissean Summer banner. I bet you that I can surpass that with my abysmal luck :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrosion Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: This is amazing. My pity rate for summer is at 4.50% now. I wonder what the highest pity rate is I'm pretty sure I had to leave behind a 4.75% rate on Blazing Shadows all the way back in March. It was something relatively high if not that exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fruity Insanity said: Valter (1) Eirika's Army (4) Ephraim's Army (4) 9 new units? Valter and Clive are 2, there's only 7 units missing, or probably 6 plus a new GHB or something? inb4 Bruno is recruitable next chapter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Tybrosion said: I'm pretty sure I had to leave behind a 4.75% rate on Blazing Shadows all the way back in March. It was something relatively high if not that exactly. Ouch. My condolences :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Quintessence said: Valter and Clive are 2, there's only 7 units missing, or probably 6 plus a new GHB or something? inb4 Bruno is recruitable next chapter Clive is already in the compendium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Anyways the units I listed would be like this: Deen: 5 star weapon is Brave Sword+ and has Sol, Life or Death, and Def Ploy as his skills Berkut Possessed: 5 star weapon is Kriemhild (Gives plus five def/res during combat) with Harsh Command, Ignis, Close Counter, and Desperation. Rudolf: 5 star weapon is Emperors Lance (Gives +3 to atk/res/def/and when battling an infantry unit) with Luna, Water Boost, and Sword Breaker Jedah: 5 star weapon is the red Tome Death+ (Gives this units a +1 to every stat except hp when this unit wins a battle) with Vengeance, Duma's Will (Slot A skill that only Jedah can use, gives unit the fire sweep effect), and Renewal Slayde: 5 star weapon is Ridersbane+ with Vengeance, Trample (A slot skill that can only be learnt by fliers and mounted units, unit does 5 extra damage against infantry and armored units), and Panic Ploy Desaix: 5 star weapon is Draco Lance (Gives plus Res) with Harsh Command, Wary Fighter, and Panic Ploy Also, if the weapon a user is using above has plus next to it, that means it can be inherited. If there is no plus, then it can only be used by that specific unit. Edited August 11, 2017 by Poimagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, Fruity Insanity said: Valter (1) Eirika's Army (4) Ephraim's Army (4) 9 new units? I hope that means we're getting a Banner or two this weekend. If not, I might pull from the Hero's Feast Banner. I've got all four already, but getting a better natured Ike would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Poimagic said: Deen: 5 star weapon is Brave Sword+ and has Sol, Life or Death, and Def Ploy as his skills Berkut Possessed: 5 star weapon is Kriemhild (Close Counter Built into it, Gives plus five def/res during combat) with Harsh Command, Ignis, and Fire Boost Desaix: 5 star weapon is Draco Lance (Gives plus 13 to Res) with Harsh Command, Wary Fighter, and Panic Ploy Doesn't Deen have crap Res? Def ploy would be a little useless. I don't really know since I didn't pick him in Echoes. Edit: Also, L&D lowers his Res making Def ploy even more impossible to activate. Kriemhild and Dracolance is a little too much... Distant counter is already good so +5 to each defensive stat is overkill. +13 Res on Draco Lance is wayyy to much. That's adding more to the stat total than a Fury 3. Something to note is that most special weapons have innate Passive skill at stage 2 only. Other than that, I can see the others happening. I want some type of skill that activates after they kill an enemy (Peri's personal from Fates). Edited August 11, 2017 by KongDude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, KongDude said: Doesn't Deen have crap Res? Def ploy would be a little useless. I don't really know since I didn't pick him in Echoes. Kriemhild and Dracolance is a little too much... Distant counter is already good so +5 to each defensive stat is overkill. +13 Res on Draco Lance is wayyy to much. That's adding more to the stat total than a Fury 3. Something to note is that most special weapons have innate Passive skill at stage 2 only. Other than that, I can see the others happening. I want some type of skill that activates after they kill an enemy (Peri's personal from Fates). You say def ploy is useless then you talk about his bad res. Also, def ploy would allow deen to do more damage because he would lower def. I do agree about the Draco Lance and Kriemihild being overpowered. Draco Lance should give +2 def/ +5 res and should have a wieght of 13, making enemy skills that rely on speed be a counter to him. Also Kriemhild should only give +2 to def/res but still have the distant counter skill built into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Poimagic said: You say def ploy is useless then you talk about his bad res. Also, def ploy would allow deen to do more damage because he would lower def. Def Ploy requires high Res to reliably activate, since the activation condition is if Res is 1 or more higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Poimagic said: You say def ploy is useless then you talk about his bad res. Also, def ploy would allow deen to do more damage because he would lower def. I do agree about the Draco Lance and Kriemihild being overpowered. Draco Lance should give +2 def/ +5 res and should have a wieght of 13, making enemy skills that rely on speed be a counter to him. Also Kriemhild should only give +2 to def/res but still have the distant counter skill built into it. Ploys with the exception of Panic Ploy, activate through Res. If he has crap Res, AND Life and Death, Def Ploy would never activate. You mean Mt of 13 on Draco Lance? All 1 range Special Weapons have 16 Mt. The reason I think it's a little too much is because Naga and Binding Blade both have Def/Res +2 which only activates on Enemy phase. It makes their effects a seem lesser. Maybe instead put Distant Counter as Corrupt Berkut's A skill? Edited August 11, 2017 by KongDude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Def Ploy requires high Res to reliably activate, since the activation condition is if Res is 1 or more higher. Me being an idiot, I never knew that. So, what should Deen's c slot skill be? Or should he not have one at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Def Ploy requires high Res to reliably activate, since the activation condition is if Res is 1 or more higher. Realistically speaking Def Plot requires 33 or 32 res to really activate But the real value is like around 27-ish Edited August 11, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Personette Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: This is amazing. My pity rate for summer is at 4.50% now. I wonder what the highest pity rate is Mine is currently 6.25% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, JSND said: Realistically speaking Def Plot requires 33 or 32 res to really activate But the real value is like around 27-ish 32~33 is pretty high. Not the highest, of course. Def Ploy meta with Est!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Anyways the units I listed would be like this: Deen: 5 star weapon is Brave Sword+ and has Sol, Life or Death, and Threaten Def as his skills Berkut Possessed: 5 star weapon is Kriemhild (Gives plus five def/res during combat) with Harsh Command, Ignis, Close Counter, and Desperation. Rudolf: 5 star weapon is Emperors Lance (Gives +3 to atk/res/def/and when battling an infantry unit) with Luna, Water Boost, and Sword Breaker Jedah: 5 star weapon is the red Tome Death+ (Gives this units a +1 to every stat except hp when this unit wins a battle) with Vengeance, Duma's Will (Slot A skill that only Jedah can use, gives unit the fire sweep effect), and Renewal Slayde: 5 star weapon is Ridersbane+ with Vengeance, Trample (A slot skill that can only be learnt by fliers and mounted units, unit does 5 extra damage against infantry and armored units), and Panic Ploy Desaix: 5 star weapon is Draco Lance (Gives plus +2 def/res) with Harsh Command, Wary Fighter, and Panic Ploy Also, if the weapon a user is using above has plus next to it, that means it can be inherited. If there is no plus, then it can only be used by that specific unit. Changes: Kriemhild and Draco Lance aren't as broken, Berkut Possessed gets Close Counter over Fire Boost and gains desperation, and Deen has threaten def over def ploy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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