shadowofchaos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 ...Masked Marth is literally a skill inheritance only unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Marcodian_Elite said: Cool - just making sure I wasn't missing some alternate use for her. So because I really want to hit a score of 50,000 for the seal (and 2 days in im under 10k :-/) I looked into doing some of my units up and came across a disturbing trend of frequently used Inheritance Skills I have 0 or very limited access too lol, what I've looked at so far : Distant counter - no hector wings of mercy 3 - I dont have Cain for a 4* access so I'd have to use 20k feathers to level a unit (I have 2 that can be used), so not toally out of reach....but pricy triangle adept 3 - I have a 4* Cordelia I can pass along from, then I'm down to spending 22k feathers on 1 Selena for it g tombreaker - do not have at all desperation 3 - Similar to above - 20k on getting the skill from Navaree - I (a) need a whole heap more feathers and/or (b) need better summoning luck lol on the other hand I have fury 3 - an abundance of this (5 Hinatas) sword breaker 3 - a single able for this and 3 sullys (if I have the spare feathers) so not overly limited on access* vantage - almost a similar abundance as fury 3 for this one, go figure :-/ I personally use Nino with fury 3 and desperation 2, since my spare Shanna went to Tharja, and she's still doing great. Tharja had desperation 2 for a while because she lacked the sp to learn 3, and she still managed to pull her weight. desperation 2 means you need to get the users health lower then with 3, but it's still doable, especially if they use fury (or you encouter a lot of enemy healers for some reason). I think TA can also be quite useful even at level 2, though I personally don't use it. Sometimes you just have to go with something that isn't optimal, but still works. Hope that helps you a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLNarshen Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, Othin said: If you want her trained soon, you could use shards and crystals, although that does mean missing out on a lot of SP. Yeah, I'll probably just wind up waiting. Olivia works for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcodian_Elite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Bartozio said: I personally use Nino with fury 3 and desperation 2, since my spare Shanna went to Tharja, and she's still doing great. Tharja had desperation 2 for a while because she lacked the sp to learn 3, and she still managed to pull her weight. desperation 2 means you need to get the users health lower then with 3, but it's still doable, especially if they use fury (or you encouter a lot of enemy healers for some reason). I think TA can also be quite useful even at level 2, though I personally don't use it. Sometimes you just have to go with something that isn't optimal, but still works. Hope that helps you a little. Yeh I've been holding off because I could just about get past other events/okay-ish in arena so no push, but this event.....I'd be flat out screwed without Klein, been pulling his weight something serrious, and after just finding - https://ss.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6g4row/made_a_handy_little_tool_for_tracking_where_you/ I will fall well short of 50k, I will get the 5* marth though, so I might have to settle for some less than optimal inheritance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: ...Masked Marth is literally a skill inheritance only unit? You mean in a sense that its a "get this empty skeleton for a unit, go nuts with SI" unit? yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: ...Masked Marth is literally a skill inheritance only unit? She can only learn skills (aside from Falchion) via inheritance, yeah. I think that's quite reasonable though, since you can get her as a guaranteed 5* with an amazing base stat spread and one of the best unique weapons in the game. Plus, if you're playing competitively, regular Lucina is basically "skill inheritance only" as well, since you completely replace her vanilla skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, MaskedAmpharos said: She can only learn skills (aside from Falchion) via inheritance, yeah. I think that's quite reasonable though, since you can get her as a guaranteed 5* with an amazing base stat spread and one of the best unique weapons in the game. Plus, if you're playing competitively, regular Lucina is basically "skill inheritance only" as well, since you completely replace her vanilla skillset. I mean that's a lot of SP grinding for casuals like me. Like geez. I would have been fine with a Luna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, shadowofchaos said: I mean that's a lot of SP grinding for casuals like me. Like geez. I would have been fine with a Luna. SP grinding goes surprisingly quickly with 2-3 dancers. It is a bit daunting though, I agree. I suppose I'm just happy because I think the pros outweigh the cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, shadowofchaos said: I mean that's a lot of SP grinding for casuals like me. Then get off your butt and stop being a casual I don't need another 5 star sword user right now anyway but eventually I want to get her to amazingness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, MaskedAmpharos said: SP grinding goes surprisingly quickly with 2-3 dancers. It is a bit daunting though, I agree. I suppose I'm just happy because I think the pros outweigh the cons. Just now, Arcanite said: Then get off your butt and stop being a casual I don't need another 5 star sword user right now anyway but eventually I want to get her to amazingness I have access to every skill from 4 stars to make Vanilla Lucina. Except of course freaking Aether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, shadowofchaos said: I have access to every skill from 4 stars to make Vanilla Lucina. Except of course freaking Aether. Aether isn't that great anyway because of it's slow charging time, so you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, shadowofchaos said: I have access to every skill from 4 stars to make Vanilla Lucina. Except of course freaking Aether. I mean I personally wouldn't recommend giving her the skillset of Vanilla Lucina since Lucina herself wants to replace her vanilla skillset with inherited skills, but hey I'm not stopping you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: Really? Even with a bonus unit? I admit I'm only parroting what I've heard and not speaking from experience, so you may very well be right. If you lose in the final challenge, you get 40 points per map times the bonus unit multiplier. So if you clear 6 maps and have a x1.4 unit, you get 240*1.4 points, or 336. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, shadowofchaos said: I have access to every skill from 4 stars to make Vanilla Lucina. Except of course freaking Aether. Aether isn’t really worth it without, maybe, Heavy Blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: I have access to every skill from 4 stars to make Vanilla Lucina. Except of course freaking Aether. LOL Aether is garbage anyway XD Vanilla Lucina is meh. You would need the Psychopathic stuff like Fury and Life and Death for a real Lucina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Othin said: If you lose in the final challenge, you get 40 points per map times the bonus unit multiplier. So if you clear 6 maps and have a x1.4 unit, you get 240*1.4 points, or 336. I stand corrected then, thanks for the clarification. Perhaps what I was reading about were people who couldn't clear the final map without losing a team rather than people who couldn't clear the final map at all, hence the score discrepancy. I do still believe it's possible to get the seal without spending a lot of stamina pots though, even if that's as many points as you can get in a run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Aether isn’t really worth it without, maybe, Heavy Blade. Just now, Arcanite said: LOL Aether is garbage anyway XD Vanilla Lucina is meh. You would need the Psychopathic stuff like Fury and Life and Death for a real Lucina Do you guys forget the part where I'm a casual and do skill sets that are fitting to the character. Not necessarily good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: Do you guys forget the part where I'm a casual and do skill sets that are fitting to the character. Not necessarily good? That’s absolutely fine, of course. But even the most fitting skill is useless and a waste of SP (and time spent gaining that SP) if it doesn’t get activated during a usual battle. Which is a real pity. Aether looked nice on Ike, for example. Ylissean Aether was kind of meh though, no flourishes and stuff. Edited June 9, 2017 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: That’s absolutely fine, of course. But even the most fitting skill is useless and a waste of SP (and time spent gaining that SP) if it doesn’t get activated during a usual battle. Which is real pity. Aether looked nice on Ike, for example. Ylissean Aether was kind of meh though, no flourishes and stuff. I use vanilla Lucy on Belinda's account. And a 6 interaction cooldown isn't that bad for me. This is the reason I prefer the vanilla skills rather than the new "shorter cooldown" ones like "Noontime" "Bonfire" etc. Simply because of the "original" skills rather than optimization. This is the same reason I never used reclassing on many runs in FE13 or FE14. Same reason I'm not into Fury builds. I don't expect to have the best setup or rank of course. But that's the same how with tiers and such of how the community accepts things being more efficient than others that I don't expect much out of being a Robin smash main. It's just a different playstyle than you guys. I mean I have a Speed Awakening (Defiant Spd) +spd desperation 2 Julia. And I don't expect that setup to be optimal. Edited June 9, 2017 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: I use vanilla Lucy on Belinda's account. And a 6 interaction cooldown isn't that bad for me. Same reason I'm not into Fury builds. Ugh Casual mentality... makes me want to puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: I use vanilla Lucy on Belinda's account. And a 6 interaction cooldown isn't that bad for me. Same reason I'm not into Fury builds. Ugh Casual mentality... makes me want to puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcodian_Elite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just cleared Lunatic for the 2nd time, got a score of 676 - I am really pleased with that seeing as its about double my average score lol going back to the calculator - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vSlMnhTs2kpfz3wdL40f3qH4TgQhP0pqTfNRrqQvLBw/edit#gid=1753728221 I'm back on target to get quickening pulse seal - so keeping at my current rate I think I'll be cutting it fine to get it or just miss out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: I use vanilla Lucy on Belinda's account. And a 6 interaction cooldown isn't that bad for me. This is the reason I prefer the vanilla skills rather than the new "shorter cooldown" ones like "Noontime" "Bonfire" etc. Simply because of the "original" skills rather than optimization. This is the same reason I never used reclassing on many runs in FE13 or FE14. Same reason I'm not into Fury builds. I don't expect to have the best setup or rank of course. But that's the same how with tiers and such of how the community accepts things being more efficient than others that I don't expect much out of being a Robin smash main. It's just a different playstyle than you guys. I mean I have a Speed Awakening (Defiant Spd) +spd desperation 2 Julia. And I don't expect that setup to be optimal. Be me and do Darting Blow Lucina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcodian_Elite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Just cleared Lunatic for the 2nd time, got a score of 676 - I am really pleased with that seeing as its about double my average score lol going back to the calculator - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vSlMnhTs2kpfz3wdL40f3qH4TgQhP0pqTfNRrqQvLBw/edit#gid=1753728221 (robbed from - https://ss.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6g4row/made_a_handy_little_tool_for_tracking_where_you/ lol) I'm back on target to get quickening pulse seal - so keeping at my current rate I think I'll be cutting it fine to get it or just miss out! Edited June 9, 2017 by Marcodian_Elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcodian_Elite Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just cleared Lunatic for the 2nd time, got a score of 676 - I am really pleased with that seeing as its about double my average score lol going back to the calculator - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vSlMnhTs2kpfz3wdL40f3qH4TgQhP0pqTfNRrqQvLBw/edit#gid=1753728221 I'm back on target to get quickening pulse seal - so keeping at my current rate I think I'll be cutting it fine to get it or just miss out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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