Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Btw, how does capturing working exactly? according to what i read i need to injure, then cripple them, and it's both based on rng? @Benice Yeah, what Ruben said. There are ways to basically guaruntee a cripple, (Harpoon, mercy, Lightning, bolt knife) and knives have a higher chance to cripple, but it is RNG based. I agree that it is basically the one thing* I dislike about Berwick, and it's not that terrible. Plot-important captures are usually there by default, as you'll see first in chapter 6. *Volo, Ozama, Gardy, Simon and Marvell don't count. Edited September 29, 2020 by Benice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: You need to inflict the "crippled" status. By default, it's almost impossible to do this. When you hurt an enemy, there's a chance that you'll inflict the "Injured" status effect (represented by a green cross above the unit's head). By itself, this doesn't do much. However, when a unit is injured, you have a higher chance to inflict "Crippled" (red cross) when attacking them. Once a unit is crippled, they can barely move, and they cannot take any action other than wait. More importantly, however, is that that's when you can capture them. Capturing gives you the enemy's whole inventory, plus some money after the chapter if the enemy was of the Imperial faction. There's all sorts of weapons, food and skills that improve your chance to injure and/or cripple. That helps, but overall, it's a rather RNG-ish mechanic. Probably my least favorite thing about Berwick Saga. Don't think of it as Thracia's capture, it's nowhere near as reliable or fun. It's not needed to clear the game or make any character really good due to equipment, i take it? 5 minutes ago, Benice said: There are ways to basically guaruntee a cripple, (Harpoon, mercy, Lightning, bolt knife) and knives have a higher chance to cripple  6 minutes ago, Benice said: Plot-important captures are usually there by default ah, good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Benice said: Volo, Ozama, Gardy, Simon and Marvell don't count. Why do you dislike those characters so much? Bad writing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: It's not needed to clear the game or make any character really good due to equipment, i take it? Nope, any important captures will be readily available, as Benice said. There's a couple of regular captures that you might really want to do (for instance, there's one playable unit whose character arc only advances after you capture a certain recurring enemy), but there are none that are absolutely required to beat the game. 7 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Why do you dislike those characters so much? Bad writing? Volo makes Navarre look like Serra, he's so edgy. The other four are unremarkable minibosses with generic portraits and four lines in the story outside of their battle banter. Gameplay, though... hoho, let me tell you, that's a different story. Those four are hell. Edited September 29, 2020 by Saint Rubenio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Freetip to everyone here, don't buy a one way ticket to hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Shrimperor said: not needed to clear the game or make any character really good due to equipment, i take it? Nonononononono. There is a collector, (Erzheimer) who will pay you a chunky sum of money if you give him weird items, (he tells you which ones,) and you gte a whole bunch of events with Ward and Erzie, but no, you could complete the game without crippling any enemies. 2 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: ah, good It's kinda like the hit rates, really. It's rng-based, but you have a modicum of control over it. 2 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Why do you dislike those characters so much? Bad writing? In Volo's case, it is because he's the second or third best unit in the game and is an edgy myrmidon.  In Ozamarvelardimon's case, they are four enemy lance knights who have supporter, and Ozama has commander as well. ...In Berwick, Lances give at least +3 to might for each hex moved before attacking, and supporter+ commander basically makes their hit 100%, and they won't attack unless you're in the range of all four lance knights. And they reach about 42 attack, which will OHKO basically everyone but Ward or Marcel. They are terrifying. Have fun with that, Shrimpy! There is a way to deal with 'em, though. Feast your eyes on this. @Shrimperor, you asked about Enid... (spoiled for size) Spoiler   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Wraith said: Freetip to everyone here, don't buy a one way ticket to hell! Good luck down there! waves goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Volo makes Navarre look like Serra, he's so edgy wow 3 minutes ago, Benice said: Lances give at least +3 to might not always. It can be anything from 1H to 5H 3 minutes ago, Benice said: ...In Berwick, Lances give at least +3 to might for each hex moved before attacking, and supporter+ commander basically makes their hit 100%, and they won't attack unless you're in the range of all four lance knights. And they reach about 42 attack, which will OHKO basically everyone but Ward or Marcel. They are terrifying. Have fun with that, Shrimpy! Time for pro gaming strats XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Good luck down there! waves goodbye I'm just trying to sign up for God damn GP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Shrimperor said: not always. It can be anything from 1H to 5H Spears and lances are actually different weapon types. Spears grant between +0Â and +2 to charge, lances are +3 and up. Only a few units get access to 'em, sadly. (Lances also can't counter or be countered.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Volo makes Navarre look like Serra, he's so edgy. The other four are unremarkable minibosses with generic portraits and four lines in the story outside of their battle banter. Gameplay, though... hoho, let me tell you, that's a different story. Those four are hell.  5 minutes ago, Benice said: In Volo's case, it is because he's the second or third best unit in the game and is an edgy myrmidon. In Ozamarvelardimon's case, they are four enemy lance knights who have supporter, and Ozama has commander as well. ...In Berwick, Lances give at least +3 to might for each hex moved before attacking, and supporter+ commander basically makes their hit 100%, and they won't attack unless you're in the range of all four lance knights. And they reach about 42 attack, which will OHKO basically everyone but Ward or Marcel. They are terrifying. Oof. Sounds like a rough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, twilitfalchion said: Oof. Sounds like a rough time. That it is. But this game's Lysithea can save the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I'm so fucking doomed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wraith said: I'm so fucking doomed... R.I.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Benice said: Spears and lances are actually different weapon types. Spears grant between +0Â and +2 to charge, lances are +3 and up. Only a few units get access to 'em, sadly. (Lances also can't counter or be countered.) Huh interesting. But they both use the same weapon rank, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sidereal Wraith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Benice said: R.I.P The horror...the horror... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, twilitfalchion said: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Shrimperor said: Huh interesting. But they both use the same weapon rank, right? Yes-The same way Blades/Swords do, and technically Ballistae/Crossbows. (Although the unit who uses Ballistae can't use crossbows and vice versa for the units who can use crossbows.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, twilitfalchion said:  ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Benice said: Yes-The same way Blades/Swords do, and technically Ballistae/Crossbows. (Although the unit who uses Ballistae can't use crossbows and vice versa for the units who can use crossbows.) ok! Imma finish some stuff then play some Berwick, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Shrimperor said: ok! Imma finish some stuff then play some Berwick, probably Have fun~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 thanks! So currently on the Shrimp Benice eternal rivalry Arc C Support: Reverse FE experience in almost every game B Support: Shrimp playing Berwick A Support: ??? xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 A-support: Benice playing Trails of Cold Steel and hating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, DragonFlames said: A-support: Benice playing Trails of Cold Steel and hating it. But that wouldn't be a bad thing xD If he played Sky and hated it, then he would need to be executed for his heresy xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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