Naglfar

man, japanese sumia is pretty terrible. english nowi is amazing. but I still play with japanese voices.

6/10. question 3 is complete bullshit, and I got 6, 8 and 10 wrong because they're linguistics shit that I haven't taken classes for so how the fuck would I know. so my grammar's good, I'm just not an english major.

the chances of FE12 being localised were 100% gone the moment FE13 was announced for international release. come on, dude.

but bases :( what does contrary do again

uh combat experience: you get a small amount for damaging an enemy and a chunk for killing one. in the case of pairing up, the rear unit can get the former kind of experience if they do damage, but if the enemy dies the leading unit will get the kill experience regardless of circumstances. experience gain is calculated separately, it's not split between the units. staves give experience per use too, generally more valuable staves yield more experience. also you get some for dancing.

really, the augmentations here are trivial. +5% to a growth means +1 to the stat every 20 levels or so, and +1 to one or two base stats is... meh. there are definitely better ways to make FE6 less frustrating - increasing weapon hit rates was suggested but that might just make dodgetanking impossible. throne and gate bonuses definitely need to take a hit, though. in roy's case, I'd give him +2 to all bases, maybe jack up his growths a little, +1 move and a significantly better rapier. I mean, let the lord be good, right?

can we not fill the newbie's head with (inaccurate) shit like this pleaseskills really don't matter at all unless you care about turns or postgame, which shouldn't be on your mind at all right now. if you're playing on normal casual of all things, you can put together no team too awful to get away with. there'll be plenty to do once you're done with your first or second playthrough and you have some idea of how the game works.

What? Dead already?

THIS shit let's just be best friends okay?

who WOULD you kiss, soul

speedo

why would you ever trim feathers

it's clear because naga is a thing, and narga isn't and also fe13 and whatnot.

if being consistent with official translations is the priority here, there's not much discussion to be had. horseslayer/ridersbane, armourslayer, and runesword. wrt dragons/wyverns: the localisation team keeps going back and forth on this, even within the same continuity. make it whatever you want, but I guess they're "currently" wyverns. wrt naga/narga: I dunno, isn't the katakana ナーガ? if it is, it's so clearly meant to be naga I don't know what else to say. wrt wing clipper: if there are no obvious inaccuracies, don't fuck with it. clipper sounds cool anyway. wrt changelog: looks well organised enough to me. the list isn't extensive enough to warrant anything elaborate.

miniupdate Gaiden 8: 10 turns (77) secret book to tharja I suppose. lucina reclasses to cavalier and eats an arms scroll. str+spd+def+res tonics to lucina. so I went slow so people could get their experience. lucina levels at a hilarious rate regardless of veteran. the foreground got in front of chrom's cut-in. it's nice how I can take this chapter slowly. anyway, the armours and reinforcements here are ridiculous. I actually cut this one a little close, but robin and chrom proccing everything solved that problem. kjelle exists. kjelle/frederick C, kjelle/sully C, gaius/tharja B Unit | Class|Level|HP|ST|MG|SK|SP|LK|DF|RS|History Chrom | Lord|15.66|32|13| 3|15|14|16|12| 3| Robin | Grandmaster|13.11|48|27|23|25|22|17|31|15|Tactician 20 Frederick| Great Knight|09.36|36|19| 4|18|12| 9|17| 6| Sully | Paladin|06.26|45|21| 7|23|20|20|25|16|Cavalier 20 Virion | Archer|08.75|24| 9| 2|13| 9|11| 8| 1| Stahl | Cavalier|09.69|29|13| 1|11| 7| 9|10| 1| Gaius | Thief|07.32|24| 8| 1|15|15| 6| 5| 3| Cordelia |Pegasus Knight|20.00|48|15| 6|21|22|18|16|13| Tharja | Dark Mage|20.00|34| 7|18|13|17| 8|14| 8| Anna | Trickster|05.65|38|15|18|26|25|30|10|11| Olivia | Dancer|03.72|20| 4| 2|10|10| 6| 3| 3| Lucina | Cavalier|07.71|41|20| 8|20|17|19|18| 9|Lord 10 Kjelle | Knight|10.79|30|16| 4|14| 9|13|17| 6| Gaiden 12: 7 turns (77) ah, master seals. cordelia to falcon knight! tharja to sorcerer! kjelle to great knight! with any luck the first two will be ready to go as main fighters, and kjelle is just here to give lucina pair up bonuses so whatever. res to robin, str+def+res to cordy, mag+skl+lck to tharja, str+spd+def+res to lucina. dracoshield from the previous chapter to cordelia. lucina: the movie, now in theatres. she killed the boss with aether, it was beautiful. lucina/kjelle C. also morgan/lucina, chrom and robin C, we don't need that flashing for the whole game. stahl/cordelia S! what am I even going to do with severa? Unit | Class|Level|HP|ST|MG|SK|SP|LK|DF|RS|History Chrom | Lord|16.25|33|13| 3|16|15|17|12| 3| Robin | Grandmaster|13.32|48|27|23|25|22|17|31|15|Tactician 20 Frederick| Great Knight|09.54|36|19| 4|18|12| 9|17| 6| Sully | Paladin|06.99|45|21| 7|23|20|20|25|16|Cavalier 20 Virion | Archer|10.89|26|10| 3|15|11|11| 8| 3| Stahl | Cavalier|10.15|30|13| 2|11| 7|10|11| 2| Gaius | Thief|07.60|24| 8| 1|15|15| 6| 5| 3| Cordelia |Falcon Knight|04.60|55|19| 7|25|27|20|21|18|Pegasus Knight 20 Tharja | Sorcerer|02.11|40| 8|22|16|19| 9|18|11|Dark Mage 20 Anna | Trickster|06.96|38|16|19|27|26|31|11|12| Olivia | Dancer|04.74|21| 4| 2|11|11| 6| 3| 4| Lucina | Cavalier|13.30|46|23| 9|23|20|25|19|10|Lord 10 Kjelle | Great Knight|01.00|38|19| 4|16|12|13|20| 7|Knight 10

just play the game dude or see a professional about your anxiety

I wish you wouldn't keep saying "soloing" because nobody else said that. still, it's true that a tier list that concentrates resources will look very similar to one that spreads them out, and I don't think this list particularly cares about the couple of turns of difference you might see between playstyles. if we could declare this mostly irrelevant and get back to tiering, that'd be chill. a tier list that most people are happy with > five tier lists that nobody gives a shit about, so maintaining one good tier list is worth doing. morgan should be easy enough to tier in theory, but the problem would lie in how you would tier all 192647 morgans without the list looking awful. I think if we could have a clause added to the OP that shitty pairing setups are ruled out, we could throw in all the kids without too much trouble.

the former is clearly superior and closer to any definition of "efficient" that I'm aware of. I've never seen that written anywhere, but if that's the case then the tier list's definition is shitty and we should change it? if using fewer resources, going faster, and not having to think as much wins less FE13 Efficiency Points than spreading experience around a larger team for no apparent reason, the entire system is fucked. so yeah not knowing about the lucina thing beforehand kinda sucked but ignis is most likely going to help me more than veteran anyway. it's not like she'll have any trouble getting all the experience she needs as it is.

you're saying "an efficient playthrough" and "a playthrough in which a small core team of units is fed most of your resources so they can roflstomp FE13's tiny maps and never die" are different things. in which case it falls to you, or someone who agrees with you, to present a better idea. hm. my lucina in that draft has ignis instead, I think because MU procced it against the C13 boss? or does it have something to do with the way skills are ordered in the list? the main site is horribly vague on how inheritance works. still, the way I see it, lucina could come with come with anything short of galeforce and not be S tier material solely based on joining time.

if "typical" means "efficient" to you, consider saying "efficient" anyway instead of making it difficult for other people to understand what you mean your second line only makes sense after you illustrate how using two or three units with pairbitches for the most part doesn't constitute an efficient playthrough oh yeah, I'm gonna finish my draft before I make any serious arguments, but what is any kind of lucina doing above low A tier at the absolute highest? she joins so late.

no it's not, the point is to tier for an efficient playthrough as everyone so loves to repeat ad nauseum ('snot ltc gaiz!). if fielding fewer units doesn't serve this purpose better, then fine, but if it does, there has to be a reason why it's a shitty and boring way to tier or else you fucking tier that way. @anouleth, I get the feeling that units are superfluous beyond the third or fourth pair or so?

Chapter 11: 4 turns (71) sully to paladin! cordelia eats another seraph robe, too. spd tonics for sully and tharja. ignis is really silly. robin and sully led the charge, obviously. SF says I can get a spirit dust, a bullion (L) and a goddess icon from this map's chests, which is strange because I only see two. plus I see no enemies holding speedwings and one gave me a spirit dust. welp. regardless, there's nothing important enough to lose turns over... which sucks a lot because reinforcements came anyway. stahl procced speed for the first time ever. Unit | Class|Level|HP|ST|MG|SK|SP|LK|DF|RS|History Chrom | Lord|14.16|31|13| 3|15|13|15|11| 3| Robin | Grandmaster|08.37|44|23|20|23|21|16|26|15|Tactician 20 Frederick| Great Knight|08.55|35|19| 4|17|12| 9|17| 5| Sully | Paladin|02.48|41|19| 6|20|18|16|23|15|Cavalier 20 Virion | Archer|07.45|23| 8| 1|12| 8|11| 8| 1| Stahl | Cavalier|09.05|29|13| 1|11| 7| 9|10| 1| Gaius | Thief|07.19|24| 8| 1|15|15| 6| 5| 3| Cordelia |Pegasus Knight|14.57|42|14| 4|18|19|13|13|11| Tharja | Dark Mage|13.66|27| 5|12| 6|13| 5|11| 7| Anna | Trickster|02.83|37|13|18|24|23|27| 8|10| Olivia | Dancer|01.51|18| 3| 1| 8| 9| 5| 3| 2| Chapter 12: 5 turns (76) spirit dust to tharja, and she gets 10 hit forged onto her nosferatu. skl+spd+lck tonics for tharja, too. this was actually pretty terrible, and I should have been able to pull off a 3-turn clear. tharja used up her whole nosferatu tome and died, and olivia and virion also got killed, but it's nice just not having to worry about that. cherche made out with her wyvern in the corner or something. stahl/cordelia A Unit | Class|Level|HP|ST|MG|SK|SP|LK|DF|RS|History Chrom | Lord|14.59|31|13| 3|15|13|15|11| 3| Robin | Grandmaster|10.36|46|25|22|24|21|16|28|15|Tactician 20 Frederick| Great Knight|09.03|36|19| 4|18|12| 9|17| 6| Sully | Paladin|04.67|43|20| 7|21|19|18|23|16|Cavalier 20 Virion | Archer|08.48|24| 9| 2|13| 9|11| 8| 1| Stahl | Cavalier|09.38|29|13| 1|11| 7| 9|10| 1| Gaius | Thief|07.32|24| 8| 1|15|15| 6| 5| 3| Cordelia |Pegasus Knight|17.40|45|15| 5|19|20|15|15|11| Tharja | Dark Mage|17.01|31| 5|18|10|15| 7|13| 7| Anna | Trickster|03.93|38|14|18|25|24|28| 8|11| Olivia | Dancer|02.02|19| 4| 2| 9| 9| 5| 3| 2| Chapter 13: 1 turn (77) defeat commander? okay. mag+skl+lck tonics to robin. my guys get to pick up some experience for a whole player phase before robin, with the help of anna and her rescue staff (with the help of olivia), one-rounds the boss. gg scrub HEARTFELT TEMPORALLY LOPSIDED REUNION let's see what kind of lucy I got me. and of course, chrom/lucina C, robin/lucina C Unit | Class|Level|HP|ST|MG|SK|SP|LK|DF|RS|History Chrom | Lord|14.66|31|13| 3|15|13|15|11| 3| Robin | Grandmaster|11.00|47|26|22|25|22|16|29|15|Tactician 20 Frederick| Great Knight|09.03|36|19| 4|18|12| 9|17| 6| Sully | Paladin|04.82|43|20| 7|21|19|18|23|16|Cavalier 20 Virion | Archer|08.61|24| 9| 2|13| 9|11| 8| 1| Stahl | Cavalier|09.38|29|13| 1|11| 7| 9|10| 1| Gaius | Thief|07.32|24| 8| 1|15|15| 6| 5| 3| Cordelia |Pegasus Knight|17.70|45|15| 5|19|20|15|15|11| Tharja | Dark Mage|17.31|31| 5|18|10|15| 7|13| 7| Anna | Trickster|04.27|38|14|18|25|24|29| 9|11| Olivia | Dancer|02.19|19| 4| 2| 9| 9| 5| 3| 2| Lucina | Lord|10.00|33|15| 7|18|16|14|15| 6| golly gosh.

and yet if it works better it's justified. is there a real reason for assuming a full team?

with how IS can't really help but make them overpowered and how FE13's MU ran around with the spotlight for the entire game, I hope they don't do it too often. it's the kind of thing that'll get repetitive and uninteresting very quickly.

to what end, may I ask