Kngt_Of_Titania Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9/10 Only Con is availibility Pretty much what I was going to say (and rate). I refuse to give anybody not Marcus a 10/10 in this game, especially considering Pent's availability, as godly as he is while he's around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I gave Marcus an 11/10, to be fair. But it was counted as a 10/10 ; A; Maybe I should go back and change all those 11/10s back to 11/10s in my doc Edited January 22, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) 9.5 because Marcus took the ten. He's just a true god among men. His ONLY flaw isn't even being COUNTED. That and movement, which is average with great 2-range anyway... and easily ferriable. Edited January 22, 2012 by Furetchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9.5 because he's not as good as Marcus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Good growths Yeah? Where? HP: 50 Mag: 30 Skill: 20 Spd:40 Luck: 40 Def: 30 Res: 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 With the rate these 10/10's are flying he's gonna beat marcus in score. Which is horribly incorrect. At least be honest people, whatever you gave Marcus, Pent should be 2 points below. 1. Combat is good but the point has been made in Erk's thread that it is largely overkill and loads of other characters do just as well in combat. Just with less overkill. 2. Still a foot unit, though he and all magicians with him get reduced movement penalties 3. Supports are nice to have but not influential enough to adjust scores by a whole point (if earth affinity isn't available, anyway) 4. Staves are nice to have, though I mostly give his physic to my main healers to ease their healing and stuff. All in all, nothing he does is phenomenal, it's just the fact he does it. And joins late. Still, better than Erk. 6.4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Pretty much what I was going to say (and rate). I refuse to give anybody not Marcus a 10/10 in this game, especially considering Pent's availability, as godly as he is while he's around. Hey, I'm the opposite. The reason why Marcus didn't get a 10 was because Pent exists. Looks like we're gonna have to disagree. Oh, well~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) With the rate these 10/10's are flying he's gonna beat marcus in score. If he beats Marcus in score I'll go back and make all those 11/10s actually 11/10s. Because Marcus deserves more than a 10/10. In fact, I'll give him a 12, because I forgot to factor in hawtness/personality bias vote when I gave him the 11. (He's got 9.77 after that. Don't think Pent can beat this.) And honestly, he isn't going to. The lowest score besides Crash's trollscore, which I didn't count, was a 7, and the VAST majority are 10s. Pent has at most half the voters giving him 10s, and a 5 in there for god's sakes. He's not surpassing Marcus anytime soon. I was worried that Ninian might beat Marcus when her thing happened, but the 5-7 votes did drag it down significantly enough for her to be lower. Now if people are giving Pent 11/10s, then we have a problem. Edited January 22, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah? Where? HP: 50 Mag: 30 Skill: 20 Spd:40 Luck: 40 Def: 30 Res: 35 Those look good to me. They aren't great. Not stunning. Not nut bustingly orgasmic. GOOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah? Where? HP: 50 Mag: 30 Skill: 20 Spd:40 Luck: 40 Def: 30 Res: 35 Those are DECENT dude. As it is, he has solid bases. Which such growths he has the potential to be quite overkill, really. Heck, a 30% def growth for a magic unit is nothing to laugh at. 40% spd is alright too. Rating: 9.5/10. First off, his character is awesome. Second, he gets kids who're really helpful in their generation. Next, he himself is incredibly useful with staves and combat. Finally, he's the better looking of the males in FE7 and he has insta A support with Louise(mind you, she takes off the burden of training an archer if you want one, which is REAL NICE.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9.9/10 Everything that needs to be said about Pent, has been. Marcus, and not being like, a Mage Knight, or like, some sort of mage!wyvern or something are the only reasons why I'm docking the 0.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Those look good to me. They aren't great. Not stunning. Not nut bustingly orgasmic. GOOD. Those are DECENT dude. As it is, he has solid bases. HP growth is ok. He is a magic user after all. Mag growth sucks. Skill growth sucks more. Spd is average. Luck is ok. Def is pretty good for a magic user... Res is ok. Alot of these are passible only because his bases are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Actually, Def is above average for most classes, even the physicals. Most physicals sans armours have Def growths in the 20s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Pent sucks. 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9 can't fly, doesn't move as far as the mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Def is pretty good for a magic user... No. I am not letting this pass. 30% is not 'good for a magic user.' 30% is outstanding for a Sage. Guess who has 25%? Kent. Sain has 20%. 30% does not need an ellipsis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galenforcer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 No. I am not letting this pass. 30% is not 'good for a magic user.' 30% is outstanding for a Sage. Guess who has 25%? Kent. Sain has 20%. 30% does not need an ellipsis. Everyone but Lowen, Hector, Wallace and Oswin have def growths 30% or below. So, that pretty much is the best you'll get. Everyone has a growth obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9.5/10 because he doesn't have a mount/more availability (and if he had either, he'd break the game in to oblivion and dare I say, more so than Marcus). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Everyone but Lowen, Hector, Wallace and Oswin have def growths 30% or below. So, that pretty much is the best you'll get. Everyone has a growth obsession. I think it's more just that people overestimate defence growths in general without looking at how low they really are. I'll admit I was the same before looking at my two aforementioned examples, Sain and Kent, and being like "holy FUCK those are pathetic" So yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 pretty cool 6/10 but not mounted, not flying, and actually kinda prone to dying without a forest or louise around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 9/10 Pent is amazing, but not up to par with Marcus - basically all my reasons have been stated by other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geriba Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 With the rate these 10/10's are flying he's gonna beat marcus in score. Which is horribly incorrect. At least be honest people, whatever you gave Marcus, Pent should be 2 points below. 1. Combat is good but the point has been made in Erk's thread that it is largely overkill and loads of other characters do just as well in combat. Just with less overkill. 2. Still a foot unit, though he and all magicians with him get reduced movement penalties 3. Supports are nice to have but not influential enough to adjust scores by a whole point (if earth affinity isn't available, anyway) 4. Staves are nice to have, though I mostly give his physic to my main healers to ease their healing and stuff. All in all, nothing he does is phenomenal, it's just the fact he does it. And joins late. Still, better than Erk. 6.4/10 Jesus, look at this flagrant score deflation. Shameful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Pent is a reliable unit upon joining. His bases are great, however his growths are much to be desired, but they are good enough to keep in in the game to endgame and beyond. His support with Louise can be great if you choose to deploy her too. He can take a few hits, but he still is not frontline material no matter what angle you look at it. Raven's rating: 75% Edited January 22, 2012 by Railgunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblade Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 out of the three pent, erk , nino. pent was the second best sage. he is really useful. good stats. pretty decent personality. but is a giant kill hog in the desert level. i think he is definalty one of the good prepromotes 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Too add, he strongly resembles Rune from Phantasy Star IV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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