Kngt_Of_Titania Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) 4/10 10/10 -- Do I even NEED to say why?He deserves a 10 in FE8 more than Marcus deserves a 10 in FE7, and that's an accomplishment. Edited January 28, 2012 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Still doesn't change the fact that Seth /can/ get to a high level in casual runs without interfering with the other units, I think Slim Sword Seth can probably weaken stuff later on by leaving them with next to none HP as long as he doesn't critical, so that'd actually be beneficial on a casual run for people who wants to use Ross or the other growth units. Don't use Seth for like 4 chapters or so, then throw him into enemies with slim weapons. I'd think while he'll lack the ORKOing he can do with Irons at that point, with no crits he can leave everything at insanely low HP and just have everyone snag kills aka cleanup duty. It's a shame that they can't get out of that mentality, because Seth even ends quite competitive relative to the other cavs. He's got better growth rates than their growth units ffs. Edited January 28, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Seth/10, and this isn't changing until Harpoony gets his butt in here and makes a proper vote Yeah, I had to do it. Ahem. . . HE'S VULNERABLE TO HALBERDS AND HE DOESN'T FLY! BAWWW!!! I think arrows are more common than horse-effective weapons. Therefore, Seth gets a 10/10, because he totally deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 If Seth doesn't get a 9.999999999/10 there's something wrong here. Then again he can't fly which is his only flaw. 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Banned / 10 Therefore, 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Is actually WTF already... I don't need to state the reasons cause they're already mentioned. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 seth sucks he cant use axes and doesn't cap as many stats as ewan 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I was morbidly curious and decided to check out Seth vs. CavPalAmelia at (10/20/)20. AMELIA HP: 46 Str: 21 Skl: 25 Spd: 25 Lck: 30 Def: 17 Res: 14 HP: 47 Str: 24 Skl: 22 Spd: 21 Lck: 18 Def: 19 Res: 14 SETH ... Considering that like nothing in FE8 has speed at all, they're pretty much identical apart from ten luck. And the whole 'Seth has beaten the game four times while you were grinding Amelia' thing, that's pretty important too. EDIT: Rounded averages. Edited January 28, 2012 by Furetchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 1: Approved/10. I like you more as time goes on. 2: SETH VERSUS PEOPLE, INTEGRITY EDITION. IN WHICH SETH gets COMPARED to OTHER CAVALIERS at their STRONGEST POINT: (10/)20/20. SETH VERSUS FRANZ: HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 47 24 22 21 18 19 14 HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 52 23 21 24 17 18 8 Seth is ACTUALLY WINNING at Strength and Skill and Luck and Defense by MEASLY SINGLE POINTS. He is also REAMING FRANZ in Resistance. Franz has an INCONSEQUENTIAL lead in HP, and +3 Speed. NET VICTOR: SETH Availability advantage: Seth by 1.5 chapters. SETH VERSUS FORDE: HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 47 24 22 21 18 19 14 HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 54 21 26 24 19 17 11 Seth is WINNING in Strength and Defense and Resistance by FAIR MARGINS. Forde BEATS HIM in Skill and Speed by NOTICEABLE AMOUNTS and has a SINGLE POINT LEAD in Luck, in addition to a SINGLE ANGELIC ROBE worth of HP. NET VICTOR: ARGUABLE Availability advantage: Seth by 8 chapters. SETH VERSUS KYLE: HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 47 24 22 21 18 19 14 HP ST SK SP LK DF RS 58 25 21 22 13 20 9 Seth BEATS KYLE in Skill by A SINGLE POINT. He has GRAND LEADS in Luck and Resistance. Kyle has A SINGLE POINT of THREE DIFFERENT STATS: Strength and Speed and Defense. Kyle also has ELEVEN POINTS of HP (WOW). NET VICTOR: KYLE Availability advantage: Seth by 8 chapters. SETH VERSUS AMELIA: I was morbidly curious and decided to check out Seth vs. CavPalAmelia at (10/20/)20. AMELIA HP: 46 Str: 21 Skl: 25 Spd: 25 Lck: 30 Def: 17 Res: 14 HP: 47 Str: 24 Skl: 22 Spd: 21 Lck: 18 Def: 19 Res: 14 SETH ... Considering that like nothing in FE8 has speed at all, they're pretty much identical apart from ten luck. And the whole 'Seth has beaten the game four times while you were grinding Amelia' thing, that's pretty important too. NET VICTOR: SETH Availability advantage: Seth by 9.5 chapters. I can forgive people for once thinking the growth cavs outstrip him, because that makes sense, but here's objective proof for the future otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) 10/10 we should combine the 6/10 and 4/10 as one vote yes/yes Edited January 28, 2012 by Dave Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Seth/10, and this isn't changing until Harpoony gets his butt in here and makes a proper vote Yeah, I had to do it. Ahem. . . HE'S VULNERABLE TO HALBERDS AND HE DOESN'T FLY! BAWWW!!! I think arrows are more common than horse-effective weapons. Therefore, Seth gets a 10/10, because he totally deserves it. Gave him a 10/10. Lolbroken unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 somehow I don't think that reasoning works with people who masturbate to 20/20 stats Nino is the best unit? But seriously, I thought everyone was going to give Seth a 10/10 and I'D be the witty one by giving him a 9.9/10. I can't believe people are giving him these crappy scores. Anyways, Seth is basically a 20/1 Franz with slightly weaker stats in all of the unimportant areas (OK, speed, but he has more than enough) with more luck and double the resistance. That ALONE would make him worthwhile material, even near the end of the game. But wait, he comes at Ch. Prologue, you say? Best unit in the game. 11/10, 12/10 for personal bias. 9001 out of 10 to balance out all of the crazies who gave him bad scores (an 8.5 is bad enough, but 4's and 6's? seriously? even people I know who don't use prepromotes love Seth, because he's that awesome). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 So broken, he had to be banhammered in drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Franz is banhammer material. Lulz. Seriously, what are Seths chances of death, pre ch8? Edited January 28, 2012 by The Creeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Seriously, what are Seths chances of death, pre ch8? -50%. If you get him killed, the game actually retcons it and revives him with higher (!) base stats. True story, I read it in EGM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Female Archers can't promote and the only Short Bow you get has a limited # of uses. Buying more breaks the bank. 2/10. 9/10 if you're Paperblade and you cheat and promote her anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Maybe we should seriously count my Avogadro's Number/10 on Seth, then even if ridiculous people give him a bunch of 0s, it'd still be so high that it won't matter :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Something Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I'm giving Seth a 2. ...Out of 2. Which is pretty much the same as 10/10. Seth deserves it. Edited January 28, 2012 by Crashman_Alpha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Seriously, what are Seths chances of death, pre ch8? I've had him die to the Halberd Fighter in chapter 6 before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 The Halberd fighter is quite capable of killing him. I've had him die to the weight of units in C5 before too, iirc. It's not exactly high (well, okay, c6 is relatively high) but it exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Seth. Enough said. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Graham's number/10 sigurds better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 relatively low starting stats, won't reach any caps on average. early game he's overpowered, when trying to start using him later in the game, he's under powered. I know he can solo the game, but that's just early recruitment speaking, anyone could if they joined earlier. 6/10 for early recruitment 4/10, overshadowed in terms of endgame stats. Because I don't rate on utility (except for thieves and even then they need to have some potential to dodge). I'm ready to be "tarred and feather'd" You two. I need to see justification before I can allow these votes. whase, if Franz joined in Prologue, he would not be capable of soloing the game. His base stats require a teensy tiny itsy bitsy amount of babying (basically until he gets to 9 Speed, iirc). Seth comes with absurd stats, and cannot be beaten in the earliest chapters. FERS, that's no where NEAR enough justification for the vote to be counted. Please expound or I will have to have this vote discounted. Seth/10, and this isn't changing until Harpoony gets his butt in here and makes a proper vote Yeah, I had to do it. Ahem. . . HE'S VULNERABLE TO HALBERDS AND HE DOESN'T FLY! BAWWW!!! I think arrows are more common than horse-effective weapons. Therefore, Seth gets a 10/10, because he totally deserves it. Creeper voted on Page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astelaine Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 It's Seth. Need one say more? Always useful. Totally hot. Could save the entire continent all by himself. 10/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 FERS, that's no where NEAR enough justification for the vote to be counted. Please expound or I will have to have this vote discounted.Yeah I think 4/10 is stupid, no I do not think that "going against a common belief held" is enough justification to throw out a vote. What makes my Graham's number/10 any less justified, exactly? All I said was "Sigurd's better" and just because you agree with me doesn't mean you should count my vote for the exact same reason you're not counting theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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