eclipse Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) (I ignore votes for people who aren't in the game) The D1 votals, final version! Mancer (8): Randa, BBM, #HBC Gorf, #HBC Larsa, Prims, ScarletFlame, Refa, Poly Prims (5): #HBC J, BT., SB, Elieson BBM (1): Mancer #HBC J (1): Rapier Not voting: Shinori "GET HIM!" Mancer sighed and escorted himself out. It was better than facing the big dude again. Dear MancerNecro, You are a Scribble. Once human, some weird disease from a goddamn joke ending has taken hold of you, and the only thing you can do nowadays is scream incoherently as some ripped dude murders you. You are words, and these role PM are words, as well. As such, you will get the role name, role, and alignment of the person who hammers the lynch. If there's no hammer, you'll get the role name, role, and alignment of the LAST person on the lynchee's wagon. You are allied with the mafia. You win if all threats to the mafia are eliminated. It is now Night 1! Night 1 ends on November 2 at 9:00 PM. No talking at night unless your role PM says you can! THE CLOCK Edited November 2, 2014 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just died, Not playing I gotta take a little time A little time to think things over I better read between the lines In case I need it when I'm older In my life there's been heartache and pain I don't know if I can face it again Can't stop now, I've travelled so far To change this lonely life I wanna know what love is I want you to show me I wanna feel what love is I know you can show me I'm gonna take a little time A little time to look around me I've got nowhere left to hide It looks like love has finally found me In my life, there's been heartache and pain I don't know if I can face it again Can't stop now, I've travelled so far To change this lonely life Dead, not playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 . . .and that's everything! Lemme sort out actions, and then end the phase for reals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 As dawn broke, two corpses returned to. . .uh, being corpses. Dear #HBC Larsa, You are-- Dear Prims, You are a grunt from DOOM. You used to be a marine, but now you go after The Hero. The odds of you killing him are pretty low, as he's got better weapons, armor, and looks than you. During the night, you may respond to your role PM with Night X - Watching PLAYER. You will keep your unblinking gaze on PLAYER, and by morning, will know everyone that targeted him/her/it. Furthermore, you pass the zombie smell test (whatever the hell that is) - anyone who pries into your alignment will see you as town. You are allied with the mafia. You win if all threats to the mafia are eliminated. Well, at least one of those guys was with the mafia? It is now Day 2! Day 2 ends on November 5 at 7:00 PM HST. Remember that DST ends today, and Hawaii does not observe DST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hey one of my associative reads was right. That means I'm gonna give the next one a shot. ##Vote:BT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 That was a premature post. Anyways like I intended to say, I felt that based on interactions with mancer there was a chance of scum!prims I didn't think Prims would be dead so I guess that question got answered still kinda surprised I was rightish cause I was a bit wishy-washy. Anyways on to why I think BT is scum. It's like I said yesterday the re-iteration of the case against mancer seemed unprovoked to me. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of reason for it, unlike Refa who seems to have been doing it more so to convince himself mancer was scum, this seemed more to make the appearance of having a true scum read on mancer. Does that even make sense? Anyways the whole Prims interaction helps me to support this theory. It seems more like BT was nitpicking the finer points of Prims discussion and trying to construe all of prism actions into a scummy fashion. I just think that's more likely to come from scum bussing. Also I kinda feel like J is town because of Prims interactions. And I'm also pissed cause now I know there's no cult because there has to be an SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Also based on Prims flipping mafia I'm more inclined to believe scarlet flame is an ITP, probably survivor, then maf because I don't think Prims would've let that happen through an entire phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#HBC Larsa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I will be here...Don't you cryyyyy~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYzy8RMGaL0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I will be here...Don't you cryyyyy~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYzy8RMGaL0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Anyways I'll talk more tomorrow now is sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ;_; Prims was scum after all damnit also got hooked kind of conflicted about BT actually BT flip-flopped all over Mancer yesterday. For the first half of the phase he kept saying "Yeah Mancer is bad but..." like in #201 where he was like 'yeah I don't see how this is scum' and then suddenly in #230 he's like "wait no Mancer is bad but I've still seen this in town" to "idk what he's doing" in #239 to "wow Mancer is so scummy" in #253 and it just doesn't really make sense. In the night phase I was fairly sure BT was scum. HOWEVER after the Prims flip I'm not sure anymore. BT basically just suspected Mancer and Prims for most of the day, and they were both main wagons along with me kind of. He never really pushed me at all (actually it's a little weird that he never gave an opinion on me) so if he was scum he was basically committing himself to a D1 bus and scum lynch. If this is the case, then the super waffling back-and-forth on Mancer doesn't really make sense, because why wouldn't BT just stick to one solid read there? Looks bad if Mancer is lynched over Prims (which was more likely to happen than the reverse). I guessssss if he thought town would just lynch me but over either of them without him having to do anything but eh dunno. Will need to look at other interactions. J is probably town after Prims flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 rolled vig I shot prims rolled vig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 BT, good job shooting Prims and all, but also fuck you I was going into this day being like "Prims is obvious scum, Mancer would've voted him as a counter wagon if he wasn't" and now I have to actually effort. :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 If the confirmed-to-exist cop has a result on the lurkers the may want to out them, I'm pretty confident they're all top scum suspects. Maybe not Rapier (I like making snap decisions off of small interactions) but like let's try this: ##Vote Poly They're all top scum suspects because I don't see myself voting... almost all of the active players? What, Gorf? I think SB, BBM, Randa, Refa, Elieson and J are all town. (@BBM: You were a gut town read that turned stronger over Mancer's flip) Another idea I had was to just force claims out of all the lurkers and have a mini-massclaim but I guess I'll have other people's thoughts on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 mafia sucks AT LEAST IT WAS ON PURPOSE THIS TIME go scum mafia sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 BT, good job shooting Prims and all, but also fuck you I was going into this day being like "Prims is obvious scum, Mancer would've voted him as a counter wagon if he wasn't" and now I have to actually effort. :< That was a really good point btw so have like, 10% shot credit? I thought Mancer's "Is that a counter-claim?" was pretty hilarious. Anyways on to why I think BT is scum. It's like I said yesterday the re-iteration of the case against mancer seemed unprovoked to me. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of reason for it, unlike Refa who seems to have been doing it more so to convince himself mancer was scum, this seemed more to make the appearance of having a true scum read on mancer. Does that even make sense? Anyways the whole Prims interaction helps me to support this theory. It seems more like BT was nitpicking the finer points of Prims discussion and trying to construe all of prism actions into a scummy fashion. I just think that's more likely to come from scum bussing. The purpose of the Good Mancer Post was to just affirm what I think about the slot. I was reading the thread so I made another post. If it has other people's thoughts in it it means I agreed with them or I reached the same conclusions. I wasn't nitpicking! I think the only post that qualifies as nitpicking is the one I specifically broke down for Refa. Like, nitpicking was exactly what I was doing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Also I'm on the phone right now but I'm like 80% sure that ScarletFlame is town (addendum: he could also be ITP, but I don't see anything that points towards that being a thing ATM). It's mostly because of how Mancer worded his post where he "outed" his scum buddy, also I don't think the dude would randomly vote his scum buddy and do nothing else lol. ProTip Mancer, you should've picked me to "out" because people (who've played with Scum!Refa anyways) would've actually bought it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 @eclipse: Does Mancer's role trigger on the day he was lynched? Does it ignore scumbuddies if they were on the wagon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (more after breakfast and stuff i'd just like these answered) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Oh I think I see what you're getting at. Anyway addendum to Lynch the Lurkers: I think Mancer meant it when he said his team was lurking / not doing enough to save him. As far as the MAFIA goes I'm pretty confident the remaining one or two are in the lurkers. The problem's gonna be the ITP(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Mancer being a second weak info role suggests there's probably 4 maf at this point, I doubt we'll have to worry about many ITPs Actually getting breakfast now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yay! Scum team with Prims carrying please! Lol! SO HOW DID THAT GO FOR YOU MANCER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Another idea I had was to just force claims out of all the lurkers and have a mini-massclaim but I guess I'll have other people's thoughts on that one. Huh, I somehow missed this. Anyways, I'd be OK with it just so that we don't end up deciding on a lynch on an inactive slot and they're not around to claim at the time by virtue of being inactive. Lazy reads post coming soon (by which I mean I actually did zero reading to make the post). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Refa- Sexy bitch/10. Not a puppy. BT.- Obviously the SK (that vigilante claim was WOLFY AS FUCK). However since SK's are cool and definitely always townsided, he can be on the top of my list anyways (I totally got your back, dude). Also his interactions with flipped scum are nice, I guess. SB- Probably my strongest townread because BT. is totally not town. Even for Super Busser, scumreading 2 members of his team on D1 would be a bit much plus all of that stuff I said about his play D1 that I'm way too lazy to repeat here. #HBC J- Town because Prims was tunneling on him for all of yesterday and obviously intended to lynch the dude over Mancer. Elieson- Play has been kinda shaky, but he's probably town for voting Prims over Mancer yesterday (see, if he was scum he'd have just gone with the leading wagon and looked better for it). ScarletFlame- Town for the reasons I stated earlier. BBM- Only reason he's not higher despite tunneling scum all day long was because he's done it before as scum. Still, his explanations were valid and he would've pressed J more as scum. Polydeuces- I kind of forgot that he was playing until I read the OP. Rapier- More like Lazier, Slower, Flakier OK I got nothing. Shinori- Another person I forgot was in this game. #HBC Gorf- Pretty sure he was doing...stuff yesterday, but I can't really remember it for the life of me. Definitely warrants a reread. Randa- Was townreading him yesterday (mostly because he said some stuff that didn't make sense as scum to me), but PoE's a bitch; going to reread his interactions with Prims/Mancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dead and not playing SO HOW DID THAT GO FOR YOU MANCERWell, I really thought Prims could carry me this game T.T...Dead and not playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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