Acacia Sgt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 So? Robert fits the theme of the game much better. Is there even a general theme? Smaller ones, sure, but an overall one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Fine. My turn. Bob Malice Sheema Rody Yumina Yubello Ellerean Malliesia Warren Belf Leiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I'm surprised Katarina -> Catalina wasn't brought up since the former is the Romaji of Catalina. But the project's probably made enough progress that it's probably too late to change it, so whatever. Unlike some other people, I don't find translations of names to be Serious Business. I think Samto should be kept as Samto for this reason: Tomas is an anagram of Samto. Sadly, that is the only thing remotely interesting about this worthless character. Edited February 17, 2012 by Gafgarion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I think Samto should be kept as Samto for this reason:Tomas is an anagram of Samto. Sadly' date=' that is the only thing remotelyinteresting about this worthless character.[/quote'] I don't think that's intended, though, since Tomas (original name Thormas) wasn't the character's name until over a decade after Samto was named. It's an interesting tidbit, but it'd be bad reasoning to keep the name Samto. Those are my quick, subject-to-change suggestions for names. In italics are names I'm not sure on. Banzai, it took me a few minutes to figure out who "Vena" was supposed to be, hahah. Your suggestions are certainly interesting. And hey, if we're doing bullet-point lists, I guess I'll do one too. Melisha Santos Erelian Yumina Yubello Feena Shiva Vergil Raiden That'd be my fantasy scenario. Obviously, though, I don't often get my way when it comes to this sorta stuff . (Except Vergil, which is a victory that I will always prize). Edited February 17, 2012 by Arch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 My suggestions - Stats Stats Stats Stats Gaggles seeing as that's all that SF really cares about anyway Shamtou (not so sure, but let's see the shitstorm) Marice Shima Rody Yumina Yubello Erelian (I wouldn't mind Ellerean, honestly) Malicia Warren Belves Reidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Elrain casts Elfire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 It depends on how your romanization scheme works. It is, however, the same 'ei' combination as found in 'sensei' though, meaning it is just supposed to be an elongated sound, and not two separate vowels. The katakan is レー、rather than it being 'ei,' not that that technically changed the pronunciation. In other news: ITT people treat their opinion as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Oh is this a thread for terrible opinions? Because I want my turn: セシル - Sessile ルーク - Rook ロディ - Loady ライアン - Lyin マリーシア - Marissa ウォレン - Woolen シリウス - Serious サムトー - Thamtor エルレーン - Ailrenne シーマ - Caema ベルフ - Vergil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Jim Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 My own opinion on what the names should be: ORIGINAL NEW Rody Rodie Malliesia Malicia Warren Warren Yubello Gebello Yumina Gemina Samto Santos Ellerean Elrain Dice Dice Malice Marise Katarina Catalena Sheema Caema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) No matter how silly you are, dondon, I still love seeing you participate. It's always a blast reading your sharp rhetoric and pointed retorts. Anyways, if Vergil's on your list of terrible decisions, then it must've been the right call. Nice to know I made at least one good decision. Edited February 17, 2012 by Arch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Fine. My turn. Bob Malice Sheema Rody Yumina Yubello Ellerean Malliesia Warren Belf Leiden Who's Bob and Leiden? Otherwise, I pretty much agree with this list. Change for change's sake seems stupid, and nothing about changing the cast names actually improves my gaming experience. What's even the point? Why play at being a localizer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Leiden is the same name as Raiden. They are pronounced the same. Bob is a humour. Most of my preferences of names have been posted already. Sheema, Frost, Leiden, Elerean, Maris. I stuck with Katarina because I liked the "harder" pronunciation, but I'd see Catalina as the intended name. I still prefer pronouncing Malliesia as Mariesia with a nasal 'r' emphasis, though visually Malliesia wins it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Banzai, it took me a few minutes to figure out who "Vena" was supposed to be, hahah. Your suggestions are certainly interesting. Melissa and Vena are the only two names on my list that even fudge the original Katakana (and Fena -> Vena is hardly even fudging). The rest, mostly, are taking the existing names and cleaning them up or presenting them in a more easily pronounceable way. Leiden to Lyden, for instance. No matter where one puts an "ei" or an "ie" the confusion will always be ambiguous in English. Lyden cleans that up, is pronounced the exact same way we want, and looks good. Gemina and Gebello, I'm not sure why they haven't been suggested as names before. Nearly half the time when there's a Yu in Katakana it gets turned into a J sound (see Yuria and Yurius; in Berwick there is also a Yurian who is clearly meant to be Julian). For Gemina, the change fits remarkably well; Gebello, not so much, but I'd still say that it's better than Yubello without even making a slight change from what the Katakana says. Elren was just cleaning up and I'm not married to the name; if someone can present a better way of presenting him I'd spring for that. But that too is not a derivation from the Katakana. Belve or Belves I like because, as I've said before, Belf looks nauseous. But I also don't like Vergil because 1. I feel it's far too obvious a reference, even if it supposedly fits his personality, and 2. It's quite a stray from the Katakan just to make that obvious references. Belves sounds formal as well (it reminds me of Jeeves) without going crazy. So yeah, I'm not looking for crazy, wild changes for no reason. But I feel there are definitely places where changes need to be made. When they are, they should be kept as un-crazy as possible; but that's not to say "Oh that's the slightest bit off from the Kana, Malliesia Malliesia Malliesia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Some part of me likes Gervel. I dunno. Edited February 17, 2012 by Camtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Okay... here goes. Ellerean. Seems simple to pronounce to me. el-ûr-ēn That's the problem. Ellerean/Elrean/Elren's name is actually meant to be pronounced more like el-reyan, not el-rayne or el-ûr-ēn. I don't like Ellerean because it has so many different possibly pronunciations - I myself thought that it was el-air-ian until I read the katakana. I'm surprised Katarina -> Catalina wasn't brought up since the former is the Romaji of Catalina. But the project's probably made enough progress that it's probably too late to change it, so whatever. Unlike some other people, I don't find translations of names to be Serious Business. "Katarina" is a real name anyway. My own opinion on what the names should be: ORIGINAL NEW Sheema Caema The only problem with that is that we already have Caeda, so we can't have Caeda and Caema, people would think that they're related like Yubello and Yumina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) That's the problem. Ellerean/Elrean/Elren's name is actually meant to be pronounced more like el-reyan, not el-rayne or el-ûr-ēn. I don't like Ellerean because it has so many different possibly pronunciations - I myself thought that it was el-air-ian until I read the katakana. I'm not seeing any indication of any 'a' sound in the katakana anywhere. Macron e is very legimate. I can't see any other reading from the katakana. I don't know exactly what circumflex u sounds like, so no comment there. edit: no 'ya' sound either, for that matter. Edited February 17, 2012 by Balcerzak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 And hey, if we're doing bullet-point lists, I guess I'll do one too. Shiva Is that supposed to be Caema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike-Mike Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I'd suggest maybe asking this guy since he knows the naming conventions used in Shadow Dragon and all... Edited February 17, 2012 by Ike-Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I'm not seeing any indication of any 'a' sound in the katakana anywhere. Macron e is very legimate. I can't see any other reading from the katakana. I don't know exactly what circumflex u sounds like, so no comment there. edit: no 'ya' sound either, for that matter. oopsies Edited February 17, 2012 by Agromono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Is that supposed to be Caema? You've been reading too much kana, man. You're starting to lose your English . It says Shiva, Rewjeo brought up the option earlier and I kinda liked it (at least, I liked it more than Cima/Sima/Sheema/Caema). I personally find Sheema more aesthetically pleasing. Anyways, isn't it Indian in origin? I have seen both Shiva and Siva, so I think both would correct as far as romanizing the Indian name... assuming that's what IS went for. I wish they'd kept Jiol's death quote from FE3 Book 1 in Shadow Dragon, though, since he referenced her by name in that version. Then there would just be a name that NoA had already localized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I thought it was supposed to be pronounced El-rayne or El-reen. Two syllables. No need for a third one. Sheema/Shiva doesn't fit at all, btw, because Indian names are quite rare to come by in the FE universe. Cima, a Hebrew name, fits the bill much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) The only problem with that is that we already have Caeda, so we can't have Caeda and Caema, people would think that they're related like Yubello and Yumina. I dunno, pronouncing Sheema and pronouncing Kigh-mah are two different things altogether ._. Something to also keep in mind is that the kana isn't always the equivalent of English pronounciation. Sometimes the kana is an attempt to get the "sound" of a name conveyed, othertimes it's just to get it written out as close to its origin-alternative as possible (I've seen Hrunting spelled out in kana as you could say it and as a literal spelling). Sometimes the kana just can't capture the language it's trying to convey, is all, and the same goes for all languages. Edited February 17, 2012 by Celice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 セシル - Sescheeliaa ルーク - Lookh ロディ - Roady ライアン - Lying マリーシア - Mareishiah ウォレン - Rollin' シリウス - Serious サムトー - Samuraito エルレーン - Hailrain シーマ - See-meh? ベルフ - Virgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Sheema is more Persian actually (nitpicking about origins, hooray). The Indian name is actually Seema, but then again, India is pretty varied with naming. I've never met a Sheema myself though. Also, while Shiva is in fact Indian, the name is pronounced as Shiv. The main reason this is the case is because when a Devnagari language is written, the final sound is written as a whole letter (the script allows for half and whole sounds), despite not being pronounced as such. It's also a very, very masculine name, so if someone is actually trying to name Sheema that, then I am slightly troubled. Seriously, it's so masculine that Hindus worship the dude's dong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Also, while Shiva is in fact Indian, the name is pronounced as Shiv. The main reason this is the case is because when a Devnagari language is written, the final sound is written as a whole letter (the script allows for half and whole sounds), despite not being pronounced as such. It's also a very, very masculine name, so if someone is actually trying to name Sheema that, then I am slightly troubled. Seriously, it's so masculine that Hindus worship the dude's dong. Thanks for the clarification. All of the sudden the option seems pretty ridiculous. Back to supporting the unacceptable westernization, Shanna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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