Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) @Saint Rubenio I just fought the first wave at the walls on my second return to Aberrang, and literally every strength attack except for two was a crit. Is there some battle effect I don’t know about or did I just get insanely luck with artery strike? Edit: Crap. Spoiler I went to the commons and there was a conflict amongst the horseborn that was turning violent. I tried to find out what happened and put it to rest, and that ended with Derdriu being killed because the stories were conflicting and that made everyone more upset. On the bright side, Derdriu was one of my least used units. Death counter: 8. Oh my god I did horribly. Spoiler I tried to put outer the fire at the houses and then doubled down, which resulted in a bunch of wasted water and everyone burning anyway. I got 2 days. 2. Edited June 12, 2021 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acacia Sgt Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) This reminds me once reading up on the matter. Supposedly, you can train/condition yourself to only need to sleep half-an-hour every six or so hours. Basically, jump straight to REM sleep, which is where you're actually resting, but only covers like the tail-end of a normal eight-hour bout of sleep or so. Edited June 12, 2021 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Sooks said: @Saint Rubenio I just fought the first wave at the walls on my second return to Aberrang, and literally every strength attack except for two was a crit. Is there some battle effect I don’t know about or did I just get insanely luck with artery strike? You got lucky. 29 minutes ago, Sooks said: Edit: Crap. Hide contents I went to the commons and there was a conflict amongst the horseborn that was turning violent. I tried to find out what happened and put it to rest, and that ended with Derdriu being killed because the stories were conflicting and that made everyone more upset. On the bright side, Derdriu was one of my least used units. Death counter: 8. Well... Yeah. that's an easy mistake to make. Spoiler You expect something so innocent as making a question won't lead to bloodshed, but with both parties ready to lunge at each other at a moment's notice and the language barrier being a thing... Yeah, probably would've been for the best to act quickly and decisively. By the way, have you checked the walls yet? 29 minutes ago, Sooks said: Oh my god I did horribly. Hide contents I tried to put outer the fire at the houses and then doubled down, which resulted in a bunch of wasted water and everyone burning anyway. I got 2 days. 2. Spoiler Fun fact: This is how I lost Griss in my first run. If you persist and enlist the varl's help with the fire, he burns to death. That's what you get for trying to help Rugga's loyalists with the mess that they started. Spoiler 2 days is good. The returns gradually give you less time (until the final one, which can give three days), but you're pretty far already. Perhaps you will get another return or two (kinda hope you get two, Rugga gets a wonderful send-off if he's alive by the fourth return), but I'm fairly confident you will make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Hide contents 2 days is good. The returns gradually give you less time (until the final one, which can give three days), but you're pretty far already. Perhaps you will get another return or two (kinda hope you get two, Rugga gets a wonderful send-off if he's alive by the fourth return), but I'm fairly confident you will make it. I just lost a battle because I just barely missed out on winning before the second wave. And ran out of days. So yeah, back to Aberrang I go a third time. Spoiler Did you get Derdriu killed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger_06 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, twilitfalchion said: 1 hour ago, Shrimperor said: don't leave us hanging The Literary Masterpiece of the 21st Century tags on MangaOwl: https://mangaowl.net/single/56310/the-100-girlfriends-who-really-really-really-really-really-love-you Technically, this is all correct, but >just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right Edited June 12, 2021 by Maof06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sooks said: I just lost a battle because I just barely missed out on winning before the second wave. And ran out of days. So yeah, back to Aberrang I go a third time. Hide contents Did you get Derdriu killed? Spoiler Yep, I did. Well, since you didn't mention it, I will: Ludin survived the walls. Can I just take a moment to appreciate that? I will anyway. Not only does the man rise up during the literal end of the world and becomes a true leader (not a ruler like his father, as he pointed out during the talk with him earlier on), fighting alongside the handful of remaining loyal troops he has for the sake of the remnants of life on the world; he also manages to protect all of the menders without fail and even survives in the same game where all of the protagonists can die. Holy fucking shit, Ludin. What a badass you became. As for you, Sooks, congratulations: you made the best choice in this scenario. If you're curious, putting Petrus on the wall does not kill Petrus either, but he does lose some menders (which translates into less days gained than if you pick Ludin). Scathach is a terrible option: the horseborn are too disorganized to mount a proper defense, they lose a bunch of menders and Scatie himself gets cleaved in half. As for the dumbest option... Leaving the walls undefended is such an obviously terrible idea that the game punishes you extra hard if you go for it for some godforsaken reason: Both Petrus and Ludin perish in a desperate attempt to regain control of the walls. Or at least I assume that's how it goes, I've never seen it. I do know for certain that they both get killed. So yeah. Best not do that. What I'm saying is, Ludin is best boy. A shame that I was so utterly terrified for his life in my first run that I sacrificed Scathach instead. Whoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Hide contents Yep, I did. Well, since you didn't mention it, I will: Ludin survived the walls. Can I just take a moment to appreciate that? I will anyway. Not only does the man rise up during the literal end of the world and becomes a true leader (not a ruler like his father, as he pointed out during the talk with him earlier on), fighting alongside the handful of remaining loyal troops he has for the sake of the remnants of life on the world; he also manages to protect all of the menders without fail and even survives in the same game where all of the protagonists can die. Holy fucking shit, Ludin. What a badass you became. As for you, Sooks, congratulations: you made the best choice in this scenario. If you're curious, putting Petrus on the wall does not kill Petrus either, but he does lose some menders (which translates into less days gained than if you pick Ludin). Scathach is a terrible option: the horseborn are too disorganized to mount a proper defense, they lose a bunch of menders and Scatie himself gets cleaved in half. As for the dumbest option... Leaving the walls undefended is such an obviously terrible idea that the game punishes you extra hard if you go for it for some godforsaken reason: Both Petrus and Ludin perish in a desperate attempt to regain control of the walls. Or at least I assume that's how it goes, I've never seen it. I do know for certain that they both get killed. So yeah. Best not do that. What I'm saying is, Ludin is best boy. A shame that I was so utterly terrified for his life in my first run that I sacrificed Scathach instead. Whoops. Huh. So I overtook your death count, at least for now. Spoiler Scathach, Derdriu, you abandoned Canary… horse born don’t have a good track record with you, do they? And yes, Ludin is the best. Is this the moment you were talking about before that you really wanted me to see? Anyway, I’m on my third return to Aberrang and I had volunteers watch from the tower, and now I’m trying to decide what to do about the warped that broke into the basement (btw, no one seemed to die from that battle I lost at Iver’s side, although the apostate wasn’t playable before the battle began, and the game never said he left with Alfrun and company). Spoiler I told them it’s best if Iver’s name wasn’t mentioned to Bellower and I tried to avoid the large groups of dredge, by the way. I think that’s everything updated. Edit: I chose to repel the warped with the barrels in Aberrang. Edited June 12, 2021 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sooks said: Huh. So I overtook your death count, at least for now. If by "overtook" you mean you're doing better again, then yeah. 11 minutes ago, Sooks said: Hide contents Scathach, Derdriu, you abandoned Canary… horse born don’t have a good track record with you, do they? Fairly certain the only one I had by the end was the one that literally cannot ever die lol Spoiler Actually, I just googled it quickly, because it struck me as odd that Ro'Ech of all people is unkillable. Turns out if you lose the fight against the large horseborn in tbs2 he gets killed. Huh. Good to know. Quote And yes, Ludin is the best. The conclusion most tbs players come to by the end. Quote Is this the moment you were talking about before that you really wanted me to see? Sure is! I was wondering if you'd make the right choices to actually see it. I'm glad you did! Quote Anyway, I’m on my third return to Aberrang and I had volunteers watch from the tower, and now I’m trying to decide what to do about the warped that broke into the basement (btw, no one seemed to die from that battle I lost at Iver’s side, although the apostate wasn’t playable before the battle began, and the game never said he left with Alfrun and company). Reveal hidden contents I told them it’s best if Iver’s name wasn’t mentioned to Bellower and I tried to avoid the large groups of dredge, by the way. I think that’s everything updated. Edit: I chose to repel the warped with the barrels in Aberrang. Spoiler I made yet another stupid mistake in the basement and had the drunkards try to fight. This lead to Tryggvi... essentially jumping on a spear and dying. I wasn't using him, but... oof. Oh, by the way, remember when I told you if you don't finish Eyeless off in tbs2 she returns? Yeah, a warped Eyeless comes back to give you hell in this battle. Good thing you didn't run, eh? Also by the way, if Hogun had still been with you, forcing everyone to take their turn at the tower will result in Hogun working himself to the bone and dying of exhaustion. He straight up just has a stroke after he thinks he sees his brother among the warped. It's such a sad death, especially since the man was working so hard for no reason, seeing how as it later turns out, the watch is useless because the warped are coming from below. Edited June 12, 2021 by Saint Rubenio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Hide contents I made yet another stupid mistake in the basement and had the drunkards try to fight. This lead to Tryggvi... essentially jumping on a spear and dying. I wasn't using him, but... oof. Oh, by the way, remember when I told you if you don't finish Eyeless off in tbs2 she returns? Yeah, a warped Eyeless comes back to give you hell in this battle. Good thing you didn't run, eh? Also by the way, if Hogun had still been with you, forcing everyone to take their turn at the tower will result in Hogun working himself to the bone and dying of exhaustion. He straight up just has a stroke after he thinks he sees his brother among the warped. It's such a sad death, especially since the man was working so hard for no reason, seeing how as it later turns out, the watch is useless because the warped are coming from below. Spoiler F, RIP Tryggvi. I almost picked that option but I remembered the game’s lesson from long ago of don’t be greedy, so I used barrels instead. If a warped eyeless showed up here… I would have been curbstomped. I barely made it the first wave, it was hard. I did better the second wave, though I’m still taking quite a few losses. I think I am going to go for the third wave though. Jesus, that’s easily the darkest death I’ve heard of in this game so far. I hope Hogun is okay somewhere with his family in Aberrang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 @Saint Rubenio Spoiler Did Krumr die? I mean I didn’t have a choice, but I still would have liked to have kept him. I defeated the third wave in the battle at the basement in Aberrang, by the way. That netted me 3 days, but really more like 2 and a half because the wheel didn’t fill up all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: @Saint Rubenio Hide contents Did Krumr die? I mean I didn’t have a choice, but I still would have liked to have kept him. I defeated the third wave in the battle at the basement in Aberrang, by the way. That netted me 3 days, but really more like 2 and a half because the wheel didn’t fill up all the way. Spoiler That's the extremely delayed consequence of the Bolverk fight at the end of tbs2. If you lose and Bellower is revived, the warped Bellower begins to pursue you in tbs3. Krumr performs one final mad charge to stall him... And this time, he never returns. So yeah, F for Krumr. He finally got the fight he had been looking for all those years. If Krumr is already dead, I believe Sigbjorn and Bersi both perish. And if all of them are dead, Alfrun goes on her own... And lives, because she's a badass like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, Maof06 said: The Literary Masterpiece of the 21st Century tags on MangaOwl: https://mangaowl.net/single/56310/the-100-girlfriends-who-really-really-really-really-really-love-you Technically, this is all correct, but >just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I was so, so, so close to defeating the second wave in time. There is no way I’m winning this battle, and this battle is too important for someone not to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sooks said: I was so, so, so close to defeating the second wave in time. There is no way I’m winning this battle, and this battle is too important for someone not to die. ...Please tell me it's not the one I'm thinking of. Oh, I almost forgot! Backing up a bit: 38 minutes ago, Sooks said: Hide contents Jesus, that’s easily the darkest death I’ve heard of in this game so far. I hope Hogun is okay somewhere with his family in Aberrang. Funny how the most brutal death event in the series involves no gore in the slightest. Here's the full event, if you're curious. I've never seen it myself, but someone in the Banner Saga discord sent it to me a while back: Spoiler Fair is fair, you declare. "Either we all survive, or we don't." You hear arguments on behalf of an ailing cousin or a sickly father. "Everyone pulls their weight!" shouts Hogun. He looks like death warmed over, but you're happy to let someone else take the brunt of complaints for a change. It is the last time you speak with him. Hogun is found sitting by a window; his eyes open but his heart stopped. They tell you he had been awake for a week. The last thing he mumbled was that he saw his brother, but nothing has come over the black rock walls, warped or otherwise. The watch continues with one less warrior. It's... kinda even worse than I described: There was absolutely nothing coming at him. He just hallucinated his brother and then his heart stopped. Holy shit. I'm glad I just let him go with his family both times... As long as there's three clansmen left, you can argue that it's him and his family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I LOVE JUNO! Confuse is absolutely broken, not dying is absolutely broken, Juno is the best!! I did not lose that battle I just posted I thought I would. @Saint Rubenio this might be my best achievement in all of Banner Saga. Spoiler You know that fight against Bolverk in front of the white tower? And how in the third wave he joins and has like 26 strength? (And in my fight he brought several big guys with him). I just… won with only Juno and Apostate. I just barely missed the turn count for the second wave, so they were all I had but I actually won. Unrelated, but before the fight I told him fighting us would be the worst mistake he ever made. I’m not sure if that mattered. 2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: ...Please tell me it's not the one I'm thinking of. It probably is but, I PULLED THROUGH THE HORRIBLE ODDS! 😎 Edited June 12, 2021 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 And the chapter ended after that fight, which means I will quit for now. Not gonna lie, I feel like a pro at the game now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD No. No, no, no. Tell me you didn't lose against-- Quote I LOVE JUNO! Confuse is absolutely broken, not dying is absolutely broken, Juno is the best!! I did not lose that battle I just posted I thought I would. @Saint Rubenio this might be my best achievement in all of Banner Saga. Hide contents You know that fight against Bolverk in front of the white tower? And how in the third wave he joins and has like 26 strength? (And in my fight he brought several big guys with him). I just… won with only Juno and Apostate. Oh, thank God... Holy shit, for a moment you had me really afraid. Way to go, man. Spoiler If you lose that battle, literally everybody except for Eyvind, Juno and Iver dies. Including Alfrun, which has a rather severe effect in what happens next. For this battle, I find that the best thing to do is perform the ultimate subversion of fictional conventions: Interrupt Bolverk in the middle of his villain monologue. This not only causes Iver to automatically headbutt Bolverk at the start of the fight, hurting his armor a bit for free - It also makes the battle be a regular, one-wave battle without the pressure of reinforcements or further waves to withstand. It's so much more manageable. It's on to the grand finale now. A shame you didn't get the fourth return, but oh well. Good luck! The end is almost within reach! Just now, Sooks said: And the chapter ended after that fight, which means I will quit for now. Not gonna lie, I feel like a pro at the game now. There's like 10 minutes left of the game Sooks. Edited June 12, 2021 by Saint Rubenio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Maof06 said: >these tags lmao Me reading the tags like 3 hours ago, twilitfalchion said: Don't know if anyone's interested in physical, but here's something if you're interested. @DragonFlames 2 hours ago, Shrimperor said: I like this weird group I thought that was Jotaro at the top. Edited June 12, 2021 by Armagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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