Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zeo said: We also need a Greil GHB or a Zelgius GHB to go along with a Dawn Brigade banner (Because you KNOW it wouldn't be BK). Uh, why wouldn't it be the BK? Also, it should be alongside an Elincia banner instead, imo. Edited August 1, 2017 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Being a mage would actually help a lot of Armors, letting them attack farther with their 1 movement range. Having high enough Defense, Arvis could take a hit then retaliate with a powerful magic attack. He could either run a Quick Riposte or Wary Fighter build. Close counter would help too, but it still feels like it would be incredibly niche. Especially considering Armors are meant to have high defenses and lower resistance. Where would the stats go? And what place would they have outside of armor emblem which currently has the payout of approximately one orb. @Anacybele Basically because it would be too easy to get BK if it he was a GHB. That's the type of unit they would definitely want you to spend for. Zelgius is the less cool version so he could certainly be free. BK also makes sense with the Dawn Brigade banner because he helps them throughout P1 and P3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 If an armor mage has anything close to halfway decent offenses, just run 4 copies of Vantage, CC, and both buff types. Their hp is too high to panic ploy, and half the people who touch them get OHKOd, the other half fail to ORKO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zeo said: Basically because it would be too easy to get BK if it he was a GHB. That's the type of unit they would definitely want you to spend for. Zelgius is the less cool version so he could certainly be free. BK also makes sense with the Dawn Brigade banner because he helps them throughout P1 and P3. The BK is Ike's biggest rival though. If he's on a banner, he should come with RD Ike, not the DB, if you ask me. Also, we have yet to see notable villains on banners. Reinhardt is like the only one and he's not even really a villain, is he? He's just not actually recruitable in the game he appears in. Another thing, I would've thought that Camus and Xander would be units people would spend plenty of money for. Edited August 1, 2017 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Anacybele said: The BK is Ike's biggest rival though. If he's on a banner, he should come with RD Ike, not the DB, if you ask me. Also, we have yet to see notable villains on banners. Reinhardt is like the only one and he's not even really a villain, is he? He's just not actually recruitable in the game he appears in. Another thing, I would've thought that Camus and Xander would be units people would spend plenty of money for. In Thracia's narrative Reinhardt is 100% a villain The moral standpoint of Thracia outright told you he's not supposed to be viewed as a good guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, JSND said: In Thracia's narrative Reinhardt is 100% a villain The moral standpoint of Thracia outright told you he's not supposed to be viewed as a good guy Doesn't seem that way in Heroes... But we haven't seen a summonable villain since Reinhardt all those months ago, and until that changes, I'm inclined to think the BK will be a GHB. Edited August 1, 2017 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Anacybele said: The BK is Ike's biggest rival though. If he's on a banner, he should come with RD Ike, not the DB, if you ask me. Ehh... That still raises the question of if they'll even do Radiant Dawn Ike outside of the CYL banner, if at all. Plus, if Elincia shows up without RD Ike, then the Dawn Brigade makes more sense for BK to show up alongside in a GHB with the connection. Of course, that's if they do the GHB/banner connection thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, NoirCore said: Ehh... That still raises the question of if they'll even do Radiant Dawn Ike outside of the CYL banner, if at all. Plus, if Elincia shows up without RD Ike, then the Dawn Brigade makes more sense for BK to show up alongside in a GHB with the connection. Of course, that's if they do the GHB/banner connection thing. Why wouldn't they add RD Ike? He was one of the most popular choices in the CYL poll. And also, it's freaking IKE. He doesn't need to be alongside Elincia either, she has her own crew to come in with (Geoffrey, Lucia, Bastian, and Kieran). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Zeo said: Close counter would help too, but it still feels like it would be incredibly niche. Especially considering Armors are meant to have high defenses and lower resistance. Where would the stats go? And what place would they have outside of armor emblem which currently has the payout of approximately one orb. @Anacybele Basically because it would be too easy to get BK if it he was a GHB. That's the type of unit they would definitely want you to spend for. Zelgius is the less cool version so he could certainly be free. BK also makes sense with the Dawn Brigade banner because he helps them throughout P1 and P3. One possible stat line, taking Armor BST as comparison HP: 50 Atk: 37 (14 Might personal tome for effdective Atk of 51) Spd: 16 (lowest current value) Def: 32 Res: 33 That would be a pretty decent stat array, if you're going for a slow tanky armor mage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, Anacybele said: Why wouldn't they add RD Ike? He was one of the most popular choices in the CYL poll. And also, it's freaking IKE. He doesn't need to be alongside Elincia either, she has her own crew to come in with (Geoffrey, Lucia, Bastian, and Kieran). ...Well, now that I think about it, Lucina (minus Bunny Lucina) has her normal and masked self, so RD Ike could show up...but I can't see him being added outside of a Tempest Trial award or a CYL banner character until we either see otherwise happen, or we get Blazing Bartre. Not counting Karel or Tiki since their younger and older variants are more significantly different in personality then Ike, Lucina, or the potential Bartre, and I also don't count seasonal variants for how wacky they are. Oh, and "it's freaking Ike" ain't a point, silly. Not fooling me. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, NoirCore said: Oh, and "it's freaking Ike" ain't a point, silly. Not fooling me. :P Yeah it is, because Ike is so popular that a lot of money would be thrown at the game to get him, whether it's PoR Ike or RD Ike. I don't think IS would pass that up in favor of making RD Ike a free GHB or Tempest Trial reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Doesn't seem that way in Heroes... But we haven't seen a summonable villain since Reinhardt all those months ago, and until that changes, I'm inclined to think the BK will be a GHB. Thats kind of also the way he is presented in Thracia. Like nothing about his dialogue is exactly villainious(unlike Ishtar having.... chapter 8/9) but the small details we got about him, that is him supporting the child kidnapping plot for some reason easilly paints him as a villain Thracia didn't exactly make most of their character nice though. Leif's grandfather and father could easilly be retooled as a villain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, JSND said: Thats kind of also the way he is presented in Thracia. Like nothing about his dialogue is exactly villainious(unlike Ishtar having.... chapter 8/9) but the small details we got about him, that is him supporting the child kidnapping plot for some reason easilly paints him as a villain Thracia didn't exactly make most of their character nice though. Leif's grandfather and father could easilly be retooled as a villain I see. Must be a rather dark game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, JSND said: Thats kind of also the way he is presented in Thracia. Like nothing about his dialogue is exactly villainious(unlike Ishtar having.... chapter 8/9) but the small details we got about him, that is him supporting the child kidnapping plot for some reason easilly paints him as a villain Thracia didn't exactly make most of their character nice though. Leif's grandfather and father could easilly be retooled as a villain Wasn't Leif's father a good guy in FE4? Unless reckless child endangerment makes him a villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anacybele said: I see. Must be a rather dark game. HA, just like it's Fog of War maps. Good joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Wasn't Leif's father a good guy in FE4? Unless reckless child endangerment makes him a villain. Quan's a good guy, but the whole thing about what he does to Thracia, and his dream being essentially forcing his diplomatic allies(that he canonically did not give a single fuck for) to step down from their position is pretty questionable. That can easilly be made into villain-esque plot Its just not as easy as Leif grandfather ordering massacre towards Isaac since we have known Quan's a pretty decent guy(if only extremely arrogant), even if FE5 can't even shut up about how stupid he is Edited August 1, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Gustavos said: HA, just like it's Fog of War maps. Good joke I didn't even know it had those. xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrosion Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anacybele said: I didn't even know it had those. xP Yeah, it was the first in the series to have them. Unless if I'm mistaken, most if not all of them were gaiden chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Anacybele said: I didn't even know it had those. xP Imagine the fog of normal fog of war maps where you still see the terrain, but not the enemies. In thraccia, you see absolutely nothing beyond your units' vision range. Complete blackness. You don't even know if you're heading toward any sort of objective or boss. That's what makes Thracia a dark game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, Tybrosion said: Yeah, it was the first in the series to have them. Unless if I'm mistaken, most if not all of them were gaiden chapters. Oh, I see. I'm kind of mixed on them. Sometimes I hate them, sometimes they don't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Rezzy said: We'll get Oktoberfest Celica on a Pegasus with Celica's Gale. Are you going to bless me with a -Atk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 46 minutes ago, Rezzy said: One possible stat line, taking Armor BST as comparison HP: 50 Atk: 37 (14 Might personal tome for effdective Atk of 51) Spd: 16 (lowest current value) Def: 32 Res: 33 That would be a pretty decent stat array, if you're going for a slow tanky armor mage. Good enough. I'd definitely use Arvis. Dawn Brigade banner? Micaiah, Sothe and two more to cover the colors that Micaiah didn't take. Also, Oliver as a TT or GHB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, GuiltyLove said: Are you going to bless me with a -Atk? It's the only blessing I can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, Rezzy said: It's the only blessing I can give. I hope your children appreciate it. What does a -Atk Leo manifest as in real life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Rezzy's curse might be contagious. After I questioned about it here, my next two 5*s were Atk-. Edited August 1, 2017 by KongDude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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