Zapp Branniglenn Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Interesting method. My Cordelia is +Atk/-Res, so I needed to bring in my Est with Spd Ploy seal. Thankfully her AI keeps her in a position to ploy subaki on Turn 2. 6 hours ago, Humanoid said: TL;DR: If you're having trouble getting your WoM ranged units to actually teleport and attack the fort, do what you can to tank their damage. Iron weapons, and perhaps Fortress Def/Res seals if need be. This is something that had me stumped for a while as well. You want your ranged units to be in a position where they cannot kill any of the units in front of them so they warp instead. This is tough with weaksauce Sophia always leading the pack. So I went with Faye (naturally has WoM) and a 4 star Niles equipped with iron bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 As efficient as the rival domains HM grinding is, I do not see me getting feathers that way. Since it involves having 8ish level 40 units that are not maxed out. That will take either high amount of crystals which I don't have, or a mass level grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said: As efficient as the rival domains HM grinding is, I do not see me getting feathers that way. Since it involves having 8ish level 40 units that are not maxed out. That will take either high amount of crystals which I don't have, or a mass level grind. That's exactly what I did. I used Crystals here and there as shortcuts, but I went on a leveling spree with units I either don't use or will vanish from my barracks due to being good fodder. Selena, Soleil, Peri, Roderick, Mathilda, Hinata, Hana, Fir, Lon'Qu, Saias, Shanna, Odin, etc. Sure it takes time and it's tedious watching the level up screen 40+ times, but really think about the investment. You do this for 2 or so hours and then do the grind and get literal months worth of feathers. Or you do things the normal way and get around 10k feathers a week. I still have more units to level like F!Corrin, M!Kana, Barst, Titania, Libra, etc(I was going in color order I admit...). But it's worth it. What I just named just now was 25k feathers. Feathers I'd have to otherwise wait 3 weeks for from the arena or grind things out in the Tempest/Chain Challenges/Tactics Drills bit by bit. @mampfoid Ha, you beat me. We had around the same maxed HM units but then I fell way off from grinding. Things got busy sure but when I hit 250k feathers and wasn't spending them on anything I got complacent. After spending a straight 300k on +10'ing Lukas and Nino along with a bunch of other promotions though I was feeling the loss even if it was worth it. Haha. Now I'm back to 80k with quite a few units still left to go. Even some *5's like Ishtar. I'll likely be able to do one or two more rounds of five using this method. That's about 75k feathers in all, in 2 days. Think about that. Heck that +10 Serra or Fae might be closer than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I've kind of fallen off the wagon with this, too. It's something I"ll have to keep in mind for future maps if I feel I need more feathers, but my current bottleneck is copies of units. It's taken me months to work up to having enough copies of Gwendolyn to +10 her (and it's still ongoing, since I only have 9/11 copies without the proper boon/bane...). I've even been dumping them here and there to make some semi-practical/semi-favouratism projects with Caeda, Clair and Soren. Still sitting on 370k feathers and nothing in my barracks is currently standing out to me as worthy of 20k feathers. I guess Florina did hit +10 not too long ago, so maybe I should finish maxing Quick Riposte. I do find it funny that all these changes on the 0-Stamina maps have basically been IS embracing players doing endless grinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, Zeo said: After spending a straight 300k on +10'ing Lukas and Nino along with a bunch of other promotions though I was feeling the loss even if it was worth it. Haha. At least you got a straight idea where to spend them, I don't even remember what I did with half of those feathers. Still waiting for Nino and Lukas (and Matthew) in the compendium, just posted Cordelia there. 48 minutes ago, Zeo said: Heck that +10 Serra or Fae might be closer than I thought. Good luck finishing them, just keep your 22k backup in case a wild Matthew appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Zeo said: That's exactly what I did. I used Crystals here and there as shortcuts, but I went on a leveling spree with units I either don't use or will vanish from my barracks due to being good fodder. Selena, Soleil, Peri, Roderick, Mathilda, Hinata, Hana, Fir, Lon'Qu, Saias, Shanna, Odin, etc. Sure it takes time and it's tedious watching the level up screen 40+ times, but really think about the investment. You do this for 2 or so hours and then do the grind and get literal months worth of feathers. Or you do things the normal way and get around 10k feathers a week. Well in that case I'll try that out tomorrow with my +atk -hp Cordelia after I promote her to 5* for her galeforce. I need more feathers for my plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Good luck finishing them, just keep your 22k backup in case a wild Matthew appears. Both of them are somewhat far off on the count of Serra lacking Dazzling Staff or CC fodder which will essentially shoehorn her into a Pain+ role or inferior Genny which I'm in no rush to make. Nevermind that she's another colorless. As for Fae. I have the copies of course, but she's another green and I just made Nino. She'd be great for Arena due to her BST and status as a dragon, but that's not my focus right now. Bold: Always. Edited August 23, 2018 by Zeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zeo said: Bold: Always. I knew of the danger of getting a Pokemon answer to my reference, but now I have to admit: I never owned a Nintendo device, never played that game and thus don't have a clue what that means. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, mampfoid said: I knew of the danger of getting a Pokemon answer to my reference, but now I have to admit: I never owned a Nintendo device, never played that game and thus don't have a clue what that means. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I messed up is what it means. I meant to highlight "In case a wild Matthew appears" but I didn't and so here we are. Post fixed. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zeo said: I messed up is what it means. I meant to highlight "In case a wild Matthew appears" but I didn't and so here we are. Post fixed. :/ Darn, I revealed my cluelessness for nothing. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Darn, I revealed my cluelessness for nothing. :-) You're fine. I've never played Pokemon either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Almost at one page of max HM. Maybe I'll make it to a full page before the next HM cap increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 @mampfoid @mcsilas @Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Still playing catchup. Might be able to get 5 more units maxed before the RD expires (with no guarantee of the same rate of farming on the next one or even a method for it at all) but all in all I've gotten almost 15 units maxed. Units left to go from ~0-400: Beruka, Shigure, M!Kana, Setsuna, Azama, F!Corrin, Walhart, Libra, Titania, Hawkeye, Rebecca, Nanna, Julius, Leon, Merric, Boey, Saizo, Virion, Brave Hector, Felicia, Deirdre, Henry, Niles, Ishtar, Arthur, Barst, Shanna, Innes, Est, Horse Chrom, Subaki, Linde, Sonya, Ephraim. Total Units: 34 Feather Total: 170,000k Units to go from ~500-3000: Lillina, Amelia, Brave Roy, Gunnthra, Celica, Donnel, Legendary Hector, Sothe, Neph, Lyn, LA!Roy, Chrom, F!Morgan. Total Units: 13 Feather Total: 45,500k Units to go from ~3000-4500: Y!Tiki, Athena, Oscar, B!Caeda, Mia, Lukas, Lute, B!Lyn, Finn, Soren, Delthea, Cherche, Nowi, Ike, Xander. Total Units: 15 Feather Total: 22,000k Overall Units: 62 | Feather MAX Total: 237,000k Pretty intimidating that those many feathers only equal one *5 +10. But I guess it's not too bad as I currently have 128k feathers right now with more to come in from other stuff like Tempest, Arena, Etc. Didn't realize I had so many units in the 0-400 pool I still needed to train. It'll be a while before I get these feathers. Currently grinding Horse Chrom, Sonya, Innes, Linde and Shanna for this last RD day though I doubt I'll make it. The grind continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The main advantage of rival domains farming before GHB farming is that the former is much faster, with each battle over in about two turns compared to four–six in the GHBs. Larger number of simultaneously ground units is a plus, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 @Zeo Wow, this is still a nice amount of feathers to earn. Go on as long as GC works so nicely. New map tomorrow? I think one reason I was faster to max out everyone was I used to have one level 40 copy of reach unit since a long time. First time I leveled up the last of my units was when they introduced the warrior maps for the first time. I remember I was a little bit angry with myself, as it was so easy leveling units there, but I had only 5 (or so) left which where maxed out fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 @mampfoid I only leveled units I got very early into the game. I leveled units like Arthur, Virion and Beruka but I foddered those particular units off early on. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd need to level them for a purpose like this. Of those 60+ units, at least half of them I'll have to level from 1 to 40 which is a drag. But since that's the case I developed a strategy. I always had the habit of keeping the best nature possible of a unit except in the most extreme cases (like I need TA, Desperation fodder so I use all of them, things like that). So I leveled units like +ATK/-HP Mathilda, +SPD/-RES Cordelia, things like that so it's unlikely I'll fodder those units off. I put an orange heart on them so I know if I want to build or supermerge them, that's the copy to do it with. Adds a bit more overall productivity and motivation to level those units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: The main advantage of rival domains farming before GHB farming is that the former is much faster, with each battle over in about two turns compared to four–six in the GHBs. Larger number of simultaneously ground units is a plus, too. The good ones—Navarre's and Ursula's—only take 2-3. When I was starting to fall off of the HM grind, I eventually ended up doing only doing those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 @Zeo I don't know why, but I have 3 copies of Mae, Leon, Tiki, Odin and Soleil at level 40. Several other have double copies at level 40 (i.e. Matthew & Oboro). I'm using only three categories of hearts: red - best nature of unit (204) green - promotion queue (12) blue - deserves to see more use/SI (15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Maybe for the same reason I ended up with two 4* level 40 Tailtius and a third I need to work on: level one on the assumption it'll be a while before a better nature shows up, then it does, then another one shows up as soon as the second is leveled. I currently use: pink - general favouriting purple - anti-armour specialists magenta - unbuilt unit with optimal nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Well time to grind more until the enemy placement is changed. Edited August 25, 2018 by Jingle Jangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Tonight is the first night since I started the grind that my PC will not be on overnight. I have 12 units left, but none are levelled. I suppose I could send them in to claim the reduced HM from the level penalty but eh, it can wait. I guess may as well level those units in Forging Bonds, even though it's going to cost stamina potions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 @mcsilas @mampfoid @Alkaid @Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi @Jingle Jangle @Vaximillian @eclipse @NegativeExponents- Once again I've bumped the topic to show this. That's almost enough to +10 2 *5 units (Staring intently at Serra right now...) or just one and have a lump sum remaining. Welp... I did it. It's done. I farmed all 201 of the units I've ever pulled. They've maxed HM and I'm officially done farming. ...is what I would have said have said had this not happened yesterday. ....I can't be bothered with it. I'll do another round when a few more new units show up (like La'Rachel who I've STILL never pulled). I was going to post a long triumphant list of all the units I've maxed, but Myrrh sitting at the bottom with a big fat 0 was going to irk me. This is great, but everyone who achieves this remember it's not an income, but a lump sum. When you've spent these feathers they're gone forever and you can never do this again. It may seem like they're infinite, but spend responsibly. It's back to 1-2 *5's a week afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 From the sound of things, Rival Domains will be replaced with a new set of defense maps that run for two weeks. It might even be an indefinite change. So we're entering the final days for this method. I've been doing some grinding as well and am now up to 16 units maxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Glennstavos said: From the sound of things, Rival Domains will be replaced with a new set of defense maps that run for two weeks. How I’ve understood this, RD Mk I and RD Mk II are going to alternate. RD Mk II is coming for two weeks, yes, but then RD Mk I should return for a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 @Zeo Congratulations! I can totally relate to what you wrote. I became more wary with my feather spending and I didn't grind my newest catalogue additions, they became my emergency reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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