DraceEmpressa Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Halloween won't be that bad, it's too dark for sexual fantasies with a widespread appeal, and particularly too dark too see much mention on a site like this. Thanksgiving might as well be the anti-Viagra, nothing kills the mood like eating with your extended family and trying to keep hopelessly away the divisive bomb of talking politics. The chill in the air is also cold enough to discourage energetic outdoor activity and skimpy clothes, but not cold enough to encourage romantic snuggling. I don't think seasons can stop them from fanservice, that even in real life Japanese women would still wear mini skirt and hot pants in winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: The problem is there aren't enough dragons in the entire series to populate a full pool of weapons for each color that way. Hell, mages are already having a hard enough time. Thoron+ is still not obtainable, even if no one wants it. Speaking of not enough dragons, I wouldn't mind generic Embla manakete units. They already have the only bow knights, so why not throw in the only one-range magic units as generic enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Just beat Squad Assault. I used Mkv strats as a final tribute to him. I promise to trust in the Donnel. Always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraceEmpressa Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 47 minutes ago, NoirCore said: Speaking of not enough dragons, I wouldn't mind generic Embla manakete units. They already have the only bow knights, so why not throw in the only one-range magic units as generic enemies? bring on the generic mage flier and flier archer too for extra frustration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 So what exactly is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeykhang Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 @phineas81707 Official LINE. I believe LINE is a Japanese social app and this tweet is just an announcement of its conception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 minute ago, donkeykhang said: @phineas81707 Official LINE. I believe LINE is a Japanese social app and this tweet is just an announcement of its conception. So, basically, it's something not particularly accessible for me. Hopefully Ice Dragon or Shadow of Chaos likes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 HOLY CRAP IT'S 6 IN THE MORNING AND I BEAT CC 9&10. So... I got really REALLY close with a certain team composition and got all the way to stage 10 but couldn't close it out because of a critical error on stage 9 and pure idiocy on stage 10. After 3 or 5 more tries, I beat the challenge with one my full third team with no deaths. I needed one team to whittle down Ike's crew and be able to finish them with a healthy team, that's what's been in my head since the beginning and it turned out to be true. Ok! Compositions! Spoiler Team A Xander: Glowing Ember/Reposition/Fury3/Vantage3/HoneAtk2/Quickened Pulse Delthea (+ATK/-SPD): Dragon Fang/Draw Back/Death Blow 3/Lancebreaker 2/Drive ATK/Phantom SPD Soren (+1/+ATK, -RES): HP+5/Lancebreaker2/Fortify Res 3/HP+3 M!Marth: New Moon/Repo Aid/Fury2/Renewal3/Threaten SPD2/Squal Ace 1 After throwing around different compositions with varying success (by that I mean none) I decided to swap out Nino for Soren, try Xander again and see if M!Marth could not only substitute a healer, but see if I could run two red swords. Worked wonders as Soren had Lancebreaker which was pivotal for ORKO'ing Camus and the armor lance on stages 1 and 2. Had to do a bit of dancing around on every stage and use the advantage of no turn limit to camp out during the respite between stages 3 (lone lance armor leftover that can't catch anyone) and 4 (no one moves until you're in range) in order for M!Marth's health to recover so she could heal as needed because a bit of facetaBnking had to be done, like Soren vs Bruno and Xander vs bowcav. Delthea's boost was invaluable for him during the stages. The first time trying this team Xander went down at the end of stage 5 due to a crucial miscalculation but the remaining 3 were still able to beat stage 6 until M!Marth was left alone and fizzled out after killing Titania on stage 7. The attempt that succeeded however, they died on stage 6 and the entire stage had to be beaten by team B. Team B Nino (+RES, DEF): Moonbow/DrawbackFury2/Desperation3/HoneAtk3/Speed+1 B!Cordelia (+1/+ATK, -HP) Luna/Rally ATK+SPD/Life and Death2/Desperation3/Fortify DEF3/Attack+1 Olivia (*4) (+SPD, -RES) Ruby Sword/Moonbow/Dance/Fury2/Wings of Mercy 2/Hone ATK2/Fortify Res 1 Wrys (*4) (Irrelevant) Team nuke everything. Nino and Bridelia were able to nuke specific targets that other characters couldn't in crucial stages (like the Vantage archer on stage 6) but they could never be used on stages 6-10 because they were always on the A team and died on stages 1-5. Olivia dances when needed but does a bit of facetanking when she needs to and Wrys heals when necessary but he actually spends quite a bit of time healing Nino. Say what you want about +ATK/+SPD Nino but I'm really enjoying face tanking magic units with +RES Nino. Anyways, careful positioning wins stages 6 and 7 with no casualties. On stage 8 Olivia stalls Titania who does 0 damage because Emerald Axe/Ruby Sword, Bridelia mops up everyone around during that time and we get to stage 9. Nino mops up Archer at full health (she survives the encounter with 1 HP), gets healed and danced and then facetanks and destroys the cav on enemy phase. A dance here and some broken archer bride movements there and the top area is clear. Here's where I messed up. The first time I had Nino and Olivia on the right and Bridelia/Wrys on the left, but a Raven green mage spawned on the left and a sword cav with bulk on the right. They couldn't kill either one without someone dying so Bridelia and Wrys bit the big one and Olivia and Nino made it to the last stage where they killed Titania and were promptly wiped. Then I used a team of Athena/Lukas/Kagero/Sakura and got mopped up because I was impatient and so close to winning. The last time around I was smarter and prepared. Had my units positioned correctly on stage 9 and wiped all threats clean and moved on to stage 10 with a full team. Problem was no one on my team could kill Ike. So I just killed Titania, Mist and Soren and then suicided on Ike and chipped away at him until he was at 11 Health. Then got ready to mop up with team C. Team C Lukas (Quick Riposte/Ignis Build) Cherche (Brave Axe/+ATK Build) Kagero Sakura This team was basically just made to Lukas could curbstomp Ike and the Lance cav as he's my hardest counter to red swords besides Delthea. Cherche baited the lance cav, Lukas baited Ike. Lukas killed on EP, Cherche finished the cav on PP. Done. Can't believe I've beaten it after countless attempts. Just goes to show you there's always a way to overcome an obstacle and you don't always need Reinhardt or Horse Emblem. Don't know how I'm going to approach CC11+12 but I'm going to put that out of my head for a while. I'm 4 orbs richer so let's just enjoy that for now. Also my M!Marth needs a promotion. Think I'm finally going to give her Moonbow or Luna and that Threaten Speed 3 she desperately deserves. Also I need like a Million Hinatas because everyone has Fury 2 except Xander... Anyways. Done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 3 hours ago, DraceEmpressa said: bring on the generic mage flier and flier archer too for extra frustration Do not forget mage and bow armor too, and throw in staff armor and staff flier. Dagger/dragon armor/cavalry/fliers will complete the generic set of enemies. Outside of Grand Hero Battles, the AI cannot utilize Hone/Fortify Movement skills properly so I do not think it will be that big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Still waiting for a 4* Abel. At this rate I'm gonna use my 5* Abel for Swordbreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Everyone going on about armor mages and archers and whatnot like they're the best things since sliced bread. But no, what'll really fix armors, and a certain class type that's completely out of the meta, is armored healers. Just think about it, 0 spd, 0 atk, because healers don't need it anyway, and you run an armor healer with Wary Fighter and 60/50/50 bulk or something. (You can also drop wary for guard, since nothing's breaking through 50/50 without hilarious amounts of -blade buffs, which, being armor, a simple panic ploy with ruin, or a special proc, which guard will prevent.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salinea Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 11 hours ago, Vaximillian said: Too bad she gets quoted every five minutes, and quotes don’t get hidden. I can dream that if enough people remember about the ignore function she'll stop being quoted all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: Everyone going on about armor mages and archers and whatnot like they're the best things since sliced bread. But no, what'll really fix armors, and a certain class type that's completely out of the meta, is armored healers. Just think about it, 0 spd, 0 atk, because healers don't need it anyway, and you run an armor healer with Wary Fighter and 60/50/50 bulk or something. (You can also drop wary for guard, since nothing's breaking through 50/50 without hilarious amounts of -blade buffs, which, being armor, a simple panic ploy with ruin, or a special proc, which guard will prevent.) Armor units have at least 165 BST, so those stats could go slightly higher. I would redistribute it to 45/0/0/60/60 so most units cannot dent the armor without Specials and buffs. Edited August 3, 2017 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Apparently this is a thing you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, XRay said: Armor units have at least 165 BST, so those stats could go even higher. I would redistribute it to 45/0/0/60/60 so most units cannot dent the armor without Specials and buffs. You want a decent hp stat to panic ploy---if anything, it's better to have like 150 hp and nothing else, you can just Martyr off all the damage anyway. (Matyr heals you for half of your missing health, and heals the target for the full amount of your missing health.) Edit: Mind, this is only if you're going Wary Fighter, relying on the fact that shitty def/res means the New Moon line does jack diddly, that the Dragon Line is rare, and that people running the Glowing Ember line don't actually do all that much damage. Edited August 3, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: You want a decent hp stat to panic ploy---if anything, it's better to have like 150 hp and nothing else, you can just Matyr off all the damage anyway. (Matyr heals you for half of your missing health, and heals the target for the full amount of your missing health.) That sounds even better, although the unit is super vulnerable to Quad attacks from Braves and buffed Blades without Wary Fighter. Edited August 3, 2017 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, XRay said: That sounds even better, although the unit is super vulnerable to Quad attacks from Braves and buffed Blades without Wary Fighter. -blade is handled by panic ploy, negative buffs don't add to damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: -blade is handled by panic ploy, negative buffs don't add to damage. Ah, I see. Would the armor units's low movement prevent it from lining up its target properly though? AI ranged units do not seem to have a preference for attacking diagonally or orthogonally, so they can come at you from at angle where Panic Ploy does not work. Edited August 3, 2017 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 14 hours ago, Rezzy said: Tethys with an Axe. Lalum and Elphin with Green Tomes. - Tethys with tome, sword or daggers - Larum with axe as a nod to Douglas - Elphin with dagger or tome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, XRay said: Ah, I see. Would the armor units's low movement prevent it from lining up its target properly though? AI ranged units do not seem to have a preference for attacking diagonally or orthogonally, so they can come at you from at angle where Panic Ploy does not work. *shrugg* AI prefers to move sideways over up and down when both choices will get them just as close to the enemy they do the most damage to, so it should be fairly easy to line up a ploy. Any team with armor(s) in them should have plenty of mobility assists, anyway. Edited August 3, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 53 minutes ago, XRay said: Armor units have at least 165 BST, so those stats could go slightly higher. I would redistribute it to 45/0/0/60/60 so most units cannot dent the armor without Specials and buffs. The lowest 5-star level-40 stat possible based on the current game system appears to be 13 (10 with hindering nature), which is a base stat of 3 (at 5-star rarity, this is to prevent 1-star base stats from becoming negative) and a growth rate of 25 (no idea if this is a hard limitation or not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraceEmpressa Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Othin said: Apparently this is a thing you can do. How did you post your username vertically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, DraceEmpressa said: How did you post your username vertically? Probably by inserting new-line characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: The lowest 5-star level-40 stat possible based on the current game system appears to be 13 (10 with hindering nature), which is a base stat of 3 (at 5-star rarity, this is to prevent 1-star base stats from becoming negative) and a growth rate of 25 (no idea if this is a hard limitation or not). So, something like this assuming 165 BST: 113/13/13/13/13 Or 53/13/13/43/43 (Zephiel has 55 HP, so +HP nature will be enough to Panic Ploy everything.) 20 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Probably by inserting new-line characters. How do I type that on my phone? Or is it computer only? Never mind. I figured it out. I just type anywhere and copy and paste into Heroes. Edited August 3, 2017 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, XRay said: How do I type that on my phone? Or is it computer only? I'm sure you can find a keyboard app that lets you type arbitrary unicode characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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