Peppy Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Dat Rules (borrowed/stolen from Integrity) - Ratings are assumed to be on Hard 1 Mode. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. Also, if your vote is already a 10/10 or greater than 9 and you give a full point of bias, The score may not exceed 10! - Numerical votes out of 10, or something proportional to it. Make it easy to calculate for my sake. - Every ranking phase ends from 2100 to 2200 EST. Every ranking phase starts from 2200 EST to 2300 EST. Do the math if you are in another timezone! - I will insist you do not use the "Not X" reason on any character, where X is another unit. If you do, your vote will be thrown out. - "Recruits X" or "takes you to X chapter" arguments are explicitly banned. C'mon, people, this shouldn't need to be a rule. That's not gameplay performance. - Assume that the character in question is being recruited. - Similar to the "Recruits X" rule, do not use "He Comes with a Free Ridersbane" as an argument. - Rate the character based on his/her performance without the Rainbow Potion, Maturity Drop or Bond Drop - I withhold the privilege to tell you your rating is bogus and demand you revise it if it breaks any of the above. I will not throw out votes anonymously, you will be informed and given a chance to revise. 0/10 Remember this in the Shadow Dragon RTU For Macellan? Well... Yea... Same thing for this one... 0/10! Averages: Dolph: 1.00 Est: 1.25 Yubello: 1.52 Bantu: 1.61 Norne: 2.28 Rickard: 2.72 Abel: 2.81 Samto: 2.90 Wrys: 3.00 Bord: 3.25 Matthis: 3.60 Beck: 3.60 Radd: 3.64 Athena: 3.70 Horace: 3.78 Dice: 3.80 Cord: 3.83 Darros: 3.93 Jeorge: 4.10 Robert: 4.25 Maris: 4.25 Tiki: 4.27 Warren: 4.35 Ellerean: 4.81 Caesar: 4.87 Roger: 5.20 Vergil (Belf): 5.42 Castor: 5.62 Jake: 6.01 Raiden: 6.20 Merric: 6.25 Linde: 6.27 Gordin: 6.33 Navarre: 6.50 Arran: 6.62 Frey: 6.87 Cain: 6.91 Cecil: 7.21 Minerva: 7.50 Ryan: 7.71 Wendell: 7.83 Barst: 7.87 Julian: 7.95 Draug: 8.14 Sheeda: 8.15 Yumina: 8.20 Etzel: 8.33 Rody: 8.43 Luke: 8.56 Marth: 8.70 Ogma: 9.00 Xane: 9.00 Sirius: 9.31 Malliesia: 9.50 Feena: 9.53 Catria: 9.73 Palla: 9.86 My Unit: 9.99 Edited June 15, 2012 by Folgore Purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 0/10 No justification needed I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 HE OPENS A DOOR! 1/10. 0+1 bias for opening a door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Free Door Key user .05/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Sage Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 HE OPENS A DOOR! 1/10. 0+1 bias for opening a door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 MACELLAN I am convinced that Macellan is one of the most amazing characters in the game. PROS + + Macellan has unmatched durability. That is to say, nothing you would ever deploy on his map is so good at cowering in a corner and crying whenever a stray hero looks at him funny. + Training Macellan saves several turns. This is because you will inevitably give up the entire game in frustration, and the rest of those chapters cannot be added to your turncount. + Macellan has the best claim on a Door Key of any of your units. This is largely because he cannot fight in any capacity. + Macellan shares the utility of Berserker Etzel from the last game in that his HP growth is 100%. This is an aesthetically pleasing number. + I cannot read Japanese, so for all I know he could literally be Arnold Schwarzenegger at his peak. CONS + He isn't as hot as he used to be in the first game. Overall, I'm going to have to give him a nice whole number, possibly slightly generous, at a solid 0/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) This guy as bad as people say. Mac's base stats are truly horrible but his stat growths are great. Just look at his Average stats, almost everything is nearly maxed and even his res is good. If reclassed to sniper, he'll have an A in Bows. 4/10+1 bias = 5/10 Edited June 15, 2012 by Emperor Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Wrys: 3.00 Bord: 3.25 Matthis: 3.60 Beck: 3.60 Radd: 3.64 Athena: 3.70 Horace: 3.78 Dice: 3.80 Cord: 3.83 Darros: 3.93 Jeorge: 4.10 Robert: 4.25 Maris: 4.25 Tiki: 4.27 Warren: 4.35 Ellerean: 4.81 Caesar: 4.87 Isn't a 4... just a BIT high? Jeorge destroys dragons for a bit, Robert's bases, unlike a certain Macellan, aren't awful, Malice is salvageable, Tiki's ... idk, but Warren can snipe wyverns, Ellerean's a half-decent mage on this difficulty and Caesar has ranks and alright bases. Darros and his pretty great bases for his jointime (I think slightly better than Macellan all the way back in chapter 12) is a high 3, as is Athena and her wholesale slaughter of the prologue... I'm not certain Macellan is worthy of this company. EDIT: http://www.serenesforest.net/fe12/average/macellan.html http://www.serenesforest.net/fe12/average/darros.html General isn't exactly his best class, but still, Darros isn't exactly much worse for a vastly better start far earlier. Edited June 15, 2012 by Furetchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 His bases are terrible, and I don't want to see a growth unit this late, unless he can immediately self-improve. His best use. . .is to draw a Swarm. Really. 0.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Those growths aren't even something special considering that this is FE12 and everybody and their mom has high-ass growths compared to the rest of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 He doesn't even cap anything as a General. The closest stat he'll cap is Str, which is still a point away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Not to mention, how the hell is he even gonna get to those level 20 averages? :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Not to mention, how the hell is he even gonna get to those level 20 averages? :S Slowplay in the mainland. 'tis very simple, I'm told, with meaty chip. ;/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 HE OPENS A DOOR! 1/10. 0+1 bias for opening a door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 This guy as bad as people say. Mac's base stats are truly horrible but his stat growths are great. Just look at his Average stats, almost everything is nearly maxed and even his res is good. If reclassed to sniper, he'll have an A in Bows. 4/10+1 bias = 5/10 I'd like you to readjust the rating for this guy... Furet has a point once you see his explanations for the characters around the High 3's and Low 4's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'd like you to readjust the rating for this guy... Furet has a point once you see his explanations for the characters around the High 3's and Low 4's! Come on man, Big Mac needs some love! Look at all the people that are giving him bias point just because he opens a fucking door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sorry but a 3 or a 4 isn't worth it, even with Bias... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) I'd like you to readjust the rating for this guy... Furet has a point once you see his explanations for the characters around the High 3's and Low 4's! For gosh sakes, FE12 Dolph is getting higher ratings then FE12 Mac. Macellan is pretty bad, but he's not as horrible as everyone is rating him. Edited June 15, 2012 by Emperor Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) For gosh sakes, FE12 Dolph is getting higher ratings then FE12 Mac. Macellan is pretty bad, but he's not as horrible as everyone is rating him. Dude, they're both bad. To the point where Mac is unreFUCKINGdeemable. Edited June 15, 2012 by Colonel M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 For gosh sakes, FE12 Dolph is getting higher ratings then FE12 Mac. That's because he's a better unit. It really is that simple. Macellan is pretty bad, but he's not as horrible as everyone is rating him. So your solution then is to grossly overrate him, thus getting your own vote rolled out? Yeah, you tell us how that works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yeah, he's got solid growths. But how exactly is he going to get them when all of your 9 move units (Palla, Catria, Sheeda and Sirius) are rampaging the game to the end and back. Basically worthless 0/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Is Archanea's secret most skilled Bow user. 0.1/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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