Percivalé Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) Hey, bitches~ DELICIOUS COPYPASTA -- Introduction to mafia: This post Mafia games list: Here What is Mafia? Mafia is a game between two sides: An informed 'mafia', who want to kill everyone else, and an uninformed 'town', who want to find the mafia. Players are randomly assigned to teams, and the town has to work out who is in the mafia, while the mafia have to blend in and trick the town into not killing them. How does it work? Each game day consists of the day phase and the night phase. These vary in length - typically 48-72 hours for the day, and 24-48 hours for the night. The Day Phase is when everyone decides to cast a vote to hang someone (or hang no one, if you decide). You do not have to vote. Votes will be cast publicly on the forum in most cases. Votes are generally made in this format: ##Vote: User, which makes them clear and easy to find by searching for the ##. If the moderator does not specify otherwise, votes should be made in this format. The Night Phase is for those with special abilities (certain villagers have these, as do the Mafia). The most notable part of this phase is who the Mafia kill. To do your actions, send the game moderator a PM on this forum. Make it 100% clear who you are performing your action to. Sounds good, can I join a game? Of course! Check our list of upcoming games, and sign yourself up for one. The nearer the top they are, the closer they are to starting. Games in the pending list are ready to start at any point, so they're definitely a good one to sign up for if you want to play immediately. Anything else to be aware of? The rules vary from game to game, but in general, a few things are true in every game: Do not talk after you're killed, or if you're not playing. Do not edit your posts - this can vary in severity, sometimes you may edit posts to remove votes or correct grammar, other times edits are an instant modkill (getting kicked out of the game for violating the rules). You should also try to be active during the game - games tend to get boring if only two people ever talk and nobody says much. The more meaningful posts you make during the day, the more exciting the game will be. Some time after you have signed up, you will receive a PM with your role and alignment in it. This may be very basic and just tell you what you can do, or it may have some flavour text to make it more exciting. Either way, the PM will detail exactly what you are able to do. For more information, check this page. It contains the basic rules and lots of variant roles. Can I run a game? Yes, of course! Provided you have some experience in either playing or moderating, it should be fine. Be aware that we have a queue, though, so don't just make a topic and hope to start a game the next week. Also, please be aware that as a first time moderator. [spoiler=The Moderator's game planning guide](Shamelessly take from Smogon and adapted) Pre-game 1. Design your game, and put it in a spreadsheet or other nice format. It doesn't have to be 100% complete, but close to it is nice. 2. Post in this topic and ask to host a game. If you're known to be a veteran or skilled mod, then your game will be likely approved instantly and added to the queue. If not, myself or another veteran mod will contact you to get details about the game. 3. If required, give said host access to your spreadsheet/detials and work on getting the concept and balance right. 4. Once those steps are done, I will put your game on the Game Listing. Your game doesn't have to be completely finished at this point, but make sure you will be before it's time for your game to start. 5. When you are allowed, post the sign-ups. I will sometimes remind people that they can do this but often won't. Keep an eye on this thread and check your game's progress. Signups should be opened when you are one of the top 3 games on the list. 6. Once your game is ready to start, send out role PMs and post your game thread, and begin the game (preferably in that order, but it's not a huge problem). During the game Concerning substitutions, everyone who signed up for the game but did not get in is eligible to be a substitute. It is highly recommended to have a substitute list - nobodies life is perfect, after all, and people may have to drop out of games for various reasons. How you handle substitutes is otherwise up to you. After the game You are allowed to create a postgame thread after your game ends, if you want. Alternatively you can just continue discussion in your game thread. Who will check my game/Can I help check games? It could be any moderator known to be a skilled moderator. If you've proven your good enough to run a game without problems then you're good enough to help other people with theirs. How long will I have to wait for this game to start? It really does depend on where it is in the queue. Two normal games, and a mini game, are typically run at the same time. Occasionally more, but in general this is what we try to stick to. Mini games often last 1-2 weeks, while full games can last 2-4 weeks, or more, depending on the speed of the game. -- Recommended for newbies to read;; Quoted from Life (aka the true godfather of SF mafia): Mafia is a game of wits. It involves an uninformed majority known as the town and an informed minority within the town known as the Mafia.Every day is split up into two phases. During the Night phase, the Mafia picks a person to kill that night. In addition, if you have a special role (known as a power role), you may use it depending on the stipulations within that role. For instance: If I am a Hooker, I may "hook" a person during a night. This is a roleblock and anyone who has been hooked will have their night action voided for that night. This is not restricted to only the Mafia or the town. During the day phase, the town (and mafia) get together to discuss the events of the previous night and to vote on a lynch target. The town wins by eliminating the Mafia and the most sure way of doing so is by lynching a suspicious person. Lynches require a majority of the town agreeing to happen. Now depending on the game, there may be outside contact or no outside contact. Outside contact allows any player to privately speak to another player about the game. They may discuss anything they like, including win conditions (if the players are on opposing factions but have a mutual goal to work to) and ways to achieve these conditions. In a No Outside Contact game, all conversation goes on within the game thread. Information is either public to all or not known. Players must then rely on "scumhunting" to find and lynch mafia members. Scumhunting is the art of finding a mafia player through deductions (may or may not be logical). For a regular game of one mafia vs. the town, the Mafia wins if they achieve parity with the town during either phase (it is then impossible to lose the game). The town wins if all of the mafia members have been eliminated. Neutral roles may or may not win depending on whether or not their win condition has been fulfilled. That should basically sum up the idea of Mafia. It's a social game for the most part with a lot of emphasis on thinking and a little luck involved (attempting to get players to benefit your team). The three games that have sign-ups right now (including mine) all allow outside contact (Kingmaker Mafia may or may not) while the two ongoing (Choral Mafia and Assassin's Guild) do not. Just a heads up. Mind you, I find outside contact a lot more fun than no outside contact. But this is only my opinion. Edited December 19, 2010 by Frivolidad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) THANK YOU HAZE I LOVE YOU I WORSHIP YOU Current games Battlestar Galactica Strategy Game - I Eat Tables (Month 3) Mafia of the Gods - Wen Yang (N0) Pending games Choral Mafia IV - Levity/Bizz (give me another seven daysish?) Upcoming Full Games Duke Nukem Forever Mafia - WoMC SF Mafia Mafia - Haze/Paperblade Nightmare's Mafia - Nightmare Unnamed? - Pariah Upcoming Mini Games Psych's minimafia - Psychology Games requesting/being verified The format here is Game - Moderator - Verifier Games in orange will need a veteran mod to check them before they can run - just post and ask for someone to check [spoiler=Completed Games]The format of these are Game - Moderator - Winner. The link on Game links to the game thread. The link on Winner links to the postgame discussion. If there is no link, the postgame is located in the actual game thread. The following colours are used to indicate the winner: Town or town equivalent Mafia or mafia equivalent 3rd Party individual (Credited as the player who won as well as the role) 3rd Part team Mafia - General Spoon - Mafia Mafia Round 2 - General Spoon - Mafia Mafia Round 3 - General Spoon/Cocytus - Town Mafia Round 4 - General Spoon - Town Choral Mafia - Bizz/I Eat Tables - Silver Singers Mini Mafia Round 1 - General Spoon - I Eat Tables (Serial Killer) Fayt Zelpher's Mafia Game - Fayt Zelpher - Town Mini Mafia Round 2 - General Spoon - Cult Mafia Round 5 - General Spoon - Mafia I Eat Table's FE9 Mafia - I Eat Tables/Bizz - Town Mini Mafia Round 3 - General Spoon - Town Classic Mafia - I Eat Tables - TownLightning's FE10 Mafia - Lightning - Chosen ones Mini Mafia Round 5 - General Spoon - Mafia Ether's FE10 Mafia - Ether - Town Mini Mafia Round 4 - General Spoon - Mafia JB25's Tales Mafia - JB25 - Town Train Mafia Round 1 - General Spoon - Town Corruption Mafia - I Eat Tables/General Spoon - Town Choral Mafia II - Bizz - Silver Singers Lyncher Mafia - General Spoon - Ninji Quantum Mafia - Fayt Zelpher/I Eat Tables - Town Super Smash Bros Mafia - I Eat Tables - Town New Players Mafia - General Spoon - Town Mini Mafia Round 6 - I Eat Tables - Mafia Black Fang Mafia - Balcerzak - Morphs JB25's Mini Mafia 1 - JB25 - Mafia & General Spoon (Survivor) Ether's Mini Mafia 1 - Ether - Mafia New Player Mafia 2 - General Spoon - Game Cancelled Mini Mafia Round 7 - I Eat Tables - Mafia Fayt Zelpher's Mafia 2 - Fayt Zelpher - Game Cancelled Train Mafia II - General Spoon - I Eat Tables (Light Yagami) Mini Mafia Dethy - I Eat Tables - Town Reverse Mafia - Fayt Zelpher - Masons Advance Wars Mafia - I Eat Tables/Lightning - Blue Moon Lightning's Mind Screw Mafia - Lightning - Town Insanity Mini Mafia - I Eat Tables - Town A Mostly Harmless Mafia - General Spoon - Hopeless Drivers Mini Mafia - JB25 - Mafia WeaponsOfMassConstruction's Mafia - WoMC - Mafia The Resistance - I Eat Tables/Life Admiral - Empire Spies Screw the rules Mafia - Life Admiral - Game Cancelled Psychout's Mini Mafia - Psychout50 - Mafia & Lovers Pokemon Tactical Game - General Spoon - Team Rocket Sacred Stones Mafia - Proto/JB25 - Town Assassins in the Palace 2 - WoMC - SlayerX (Assassin) Assassins in the Palace 1 - WoMC - Silent Mercenary (Assassin) Hemlock's Classic Mini Mafia - Hemlock - Town Choral Mafia III - Levity - Bronze/Band (and terrorist) The Assassins Guild - I Eat Tables/Life - Town Kingmaker Mafia - WoMC - to be recorded in a moment TotA mafia - JB25/Amelia - Daath Disgaea Mafia - Lux Aeterna - Town Death Note Mafia - Obviam - Death Note Holders & I Eat Tables(Survivor) Unicycle Mafia - General Spoon - Pretty Unpleasant Guys FE10 Mafia - FE10Mafia - JBCWK - Crimea & Laguz Alliance Mitnala Rising - Radiant Dragon - Town Duel Terminal Mafia - Eclipse - Haze (Serial Killer) Edited May 24, 2011 by La Reina Leona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 Gameplay Each game day consists of the Day Phase and the Night Phase. These are usually 24 hours each. Day Phase The Day Phase is when everyone decides to cast a vote to hang someone (or hang no one, if you decide). You do not have to vote. Votes will be cast publicly on the forum in most cases. Votes must be bolded and obvious. If you change your vote and make a new post with a vote, unbold your old one. Remember, everyone (save for those who are dead) participates in voting if they decide to. Night Phase The Night Phase is for those with special abilities (certain villagers have these, as do the Mafia). The most notable part of this phase is who the Mafia kill. To do your actions, send the game moderator a PM on this forum. Make it 100% clear who you are performing your action to. Roles Everyone will receive their role in a PM. All roles are distributed randomly. Rule 1: Unless otherwise stated, do not talk in the game thread after you die. Rule 2: Do not change your display name while you are in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 FIRST! Bizz, I think you should add this to the first post in order to clear up any questions. It's the message that I sent to Eclipse and Kaoz to explain Mafia. Mafia is a game of wits. It involves an uninformed majority known as the town and an informed minority within the town known as the Mafia. Every day is split up into two phases. During the Night phase, the Mafia picks a person to kill that night. In addition, if you have a special role (known as a power role), you may use it depending on the stipulations within that role. For instance: If I am a Hooker, I may "hook" a person during a night. This is a roleblock and anyone who has been hooked will have their night action voided for that night. This is not restricted to only the Mafia or the town. During the day phase, the town (and mafia) get together to discuss the events of the previous night and to vote on a lynch target. The town wins by eliminating the Mafia and the most sure way of doing so is by lynching a suspicious person. Lynchs require a majority of the town agreeing to happen. Now depending on the game, there may be outside contact or no outside contact. Outside contact allows any player to privately speak to another player about the game. They may discuss anything they like, including win conditions (if the players are on opposing factions but have a mutual goal to work to) and ways to achieve these conditions. In a No Outside Contact game, all conversation goes on within the game thread. Information is either public to all or not known. Players must then rely on "scumhunting" to find and lynch mafia members. Scumhunting is the art of finding a mafia player through deductions (may or may not be logical). For a regular game of one mafia vs. the town, the Mafia wins if they achieve parity with the town during either phase (it is then impossible to lose the game). The town wins if all of the mafia members have been eliminated. Neutral roles may or may not win depending on whether or not their win condition has been fulfilled. That should basically sum up the idea of Mafia. It's a social game for the most part with a lot of emphasis on thinking and a little luck involved (attempting to get players to benefit your team). The three games that have sign-ups right now (including mine) all allow outside contact (Kingmaker Mafia may or may not) while the two ongoing (Choral Mafia and Assassin's Guild) do not. Just a heads up. Mind you, I find outside contact a lot more fun than no outside contact. But this is only my opinion. Take out what you will but I think it's a much better synopsis of our games than what exists from the previous thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 Mmkay Anything else you'd like to add? In case I forgot anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) Official IRC of Serenes Forest Mafia: #sforestmafia, server darkmyst Ops: Reinfleche, Paperblade, Anouleth, any current game host -- The people who are allowed to check games GeneralSpoon WeaponsOfMassConstruction Levity I Eat Tables Life JB25 Balcerzak -- THE LIST OF GAMES I WILL KEEP ANYWAYS SO BIZZ CAN UPDATE FIRST POST WHENEVER SHE NEEDS TO Currently running: Bullshit Mafia by Life, co-Mod Excellen Serenes Forest Mafia Mafia by Haze, co-mod Paperblade Pending games: Choral Mafia IV by Levity, co-mod Luka Ivalice Mafia by RD, co-mod JB Upcoming full games: Bizarro Mafia - Luka Megurine Duke Nukem Forever Mafia- WeaponsOfMassConstruction- needs a co-mod Itemafia- SevenDeadlySins Schoolboy Mafia- clipsey Pariah's mafia- Pariah Super Smash Bros. Braw Mafia- KaoZ, co-mod IET? Kevin's Mafia- Kevin The Resistance II- I Eat Tables Duel Terminal Mafia 2- clipsey Upcoming mini games: Geographical Pun mini-mafia - mikethefc Psych's mini-mafia- Psych Games that require being looked over: Bizarro Mafia (Rein), Life needs another checker Psych's mini mafia, JB25? Georgraphical Pun Mini-mafia (mikethfc), Life, needs another checker Edited July 24, 2011 by Luka Mefeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Just thought I should mention, Kingmaker Mafia is running right now. I know it was just copied from the other topic, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Yeah, I kinda stopped maintaining things... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Bizz, you won? Congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Bizz, you won? Congrats You're congratulating her for doing more work? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 'Kay, changes were made to the second post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Have a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) This is a note to all future game creators. It applies only to Outside Contact games with 2 mafias. A game on Smogon recently taught me a fantastic lesson. I'll post the log from an IRC conversation I had but skip down to the bottom to see the important thing. 01[17:24] <Life> I had to lie to Blue Tornado about giving out the names of the mafia members01[17:25] <Life> Because I thought it was a bad idea to keep it silent and watch us get picked off 01[17:25] <Life> Without any way of eventually saying "look, these people are mafia and we have to lynch them before they kill us" 01[17:25] <Life> Note: I thought that it was a bad idea at the time 01[17:26] <Life> Then thanks to an argument with Vee and Jiggly last night, I realized that I should have kept silent for longer 01[17:26] <Life> Since lynching a mafia a day isn't enough to win the game 01[17:26] <Life> We need to force crossfire too 01[17:27] <Life> And if the mafias know that we're going to pick them off one by one during the day, they'll gang up and rape us 01[17:27] <Life> Which I think is going to happen 01[17:27] <Life> So basicly, I made a pretty bad mistake but I learned a valuable lesson from it too 01[17:27] <Life> It's not enough to have enough information to win the game 01[17:28] <Life> You need to force the other teams to lose too 01[17:28] <Life> So that's where I stand This is important for balancing a game. It should not be enough for the village to be able to win if they just lynch all of their opponents. The game needs to be balanced for the village to still lose if this scenario happens. This means that the village has to also convince one or both of the mafias to aim for their opponents and create crossfire. Basically, this eliminates the idea of being a mindless follower. If the regular village just follows the leader, village still loses. If the village makes the Mafias lose, the village wins. In the same regard, the Mafias still need to outnumber all of their opponents so they win if they outsmart everyone else. Make sense? EDIT: Also, we need to change the list for games that need to be checked over first. Hopefully, Fayt is still up for checking over Tales Of Vesperia Mafia. If not, someone else can do it if it involves OC since I would like to play a game sometime. I will check over Cavalier Mafia unless someone else doesn't want to play. JM basically doesn't exist so his game can get knocked off the list unless he magically starts becoming more active than trollfox. Radient Dragon's Mafia and Tarrantino Mafia need mods and same goes for High School Mafia and Spy's Mini Mafia. Yeah. Edited December 24, 2010 by Life Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 EDIT: Also, we need to change the list for games that need to be checked over first. Hopefully, Fayt is still up for checking over Tales Of Vesperia Mafia. As soon as I get a PM from whomever is supposedly running it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 That would be Psych. You should probably PM him now about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Yeah. Sorry. >_> My computer that did have the things recently crashed and I had to repair it, but now that it's fixed I realized that 25 people is kinda a big amount. Instead, please change that to Left 4 Dead Mafia. I already have the things written up for it so as soon as I mail them to....probably Life it can start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Radiant Dragon's Mafia and Tarrantino Mafia need mods and same goes for High School Mafia and Spy's Mini Mafia. When you say these games need a mod, you mean someone has to check it for balance? Because Tables already looked over mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 When you say these games need a mod, you mean someone has to check it for balance? Because Tables already looked over mine. He has? Perfect then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Yeah. They look fairly good, they're ready to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Yeah. Sorry. >_> My computer that did have the things recently crashed and I had to repair it, but now that it's fixed I realized that 25 people is kinda a big amount. Instead, please change that to Left 4 Dead Mafia. I already have the things written up for it so as soon as I mail them to....probably Life it can start. I'm still in the process of looking through this. It's complicated to balance... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I have a new idea for another game. Despite what the theme implies, it won't be flavour heavy. Mini game for 11/12 people (undecided at this point) with a number of interesting quirks. I'd like someone with some degree of experience moderating to help. Knowledge of Battlestar Galactica will be useful, but not necessary. I don't intend to plan this game properly for another few weeks or so at least, just FYI. Also Levity, can you remove my mini game please? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I was wondering if people here would be interested in a unicycle style mafia? For those who don't know what Unicycle means, it's essentially fusing the Day and Night into one Cycle, during which all events that would normally happen during Day and Night are executed. It's essentially implemented as a Day and then a Night, meaning the lynch and its votes take a higher priority than the Night. This means that someone's vote counts even if they are killed during that Cycle, and you cannot execute your "Night" role if you are lynched. It's an interesting concept, and should help to eliminate the lull some people feel, as well as generally up the pace of the game. Anyone interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It sounds....very confusing. But it probably would be more action packed and things like you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I would love it, considering night phases can be so boring and long at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 So basically, you send your night actions already before even knowing who'll get lynched? That sounds like it'd make planning ahead a lot more difficult. It does sound interesting, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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